Posted by machine on January 6, 2011, 3:02 am, in reply to "Closing Argument..."
The other side has admitted that the death penalty is not evenly administered.
I haven't. What law/punishment is? Some people get away with DUI. OJ Simpson, got away with murder. Charlie Rangel was "censured" for crimes I would do hard time for. I could get a ticket if I get pulled over, you might not. I can continue with example after example, ad nauseum. When has any law, ever, in the history of mankind been evenly administered?
Though no one will admit it's racist and applied against the poor
Because it's not.
if the law read, "We shall hang every nigger from the largest tree we can find, for looking at a white woman the wrong way" You might have a point. I don't think a law like that has ever existed in this state. The law does not TARGET race, or the "poor." I have never in my carer met a black, or Female machinist. (I'm not saying they don't exist) That does not mean that machinists and shop owners are racist, rather it suggest that for some reason white/asian/mexican men are attracted to and/or excel in the field.
there is no question that the process is random and there is really no justice when some get to die and some don't.
The process is not "random," and as I have explained already, (till blue in face.) No law has ever been equal to everybody it should apply to. That does not mean we should give up on living in a republic. By your logic, ALL LAWS are unjust, because some get punished and some don't.
But no one will then further conclude that the system is unjust and needs to be scrapped. Because the system is by an large just. There is no need for it to be scrapped. Yes, there are a few flaws hear and there, they should be fixed. I'm not going to throw my car in scrap bin because a headlamp stopped working. Nor should the American people give up a otherwise good penal code, because it gets your panties in a bunch.
we are more like the other countries we call unjust and profess as our enemies. We execute just as they do, and it appears that our death penalty system is equally as just. They also eat, and so do we, We have sex and so do they. We raise families, so do they, their society consists of Men and Woman, so does ours, Again, I can go on ad nauseum. All of those nasty countries you speak of do things we don't however. We don't prosecute, much less kill people for; Being the second born child, dissent, not being of the correct religion, so on and so forth. To suggest that we are like a mid-east country that practices Sharia law, because we share a few punishments in our penal code with them. Parts that has been around since the beginning of history. Never more humanly administered, or with more care given to a fair trial. Is an abomination, and intellectually dishonest.
So there is common ground -- The Death Penalty is unjust
I'm not sure how you arrived at that being common ground, seeing you the only one saying it.
Third - No one can prove that it deters crime, and we know the truth. Fear of the death penalty is not keeping people from committing crimes.
To sum up what i said in an earlier post, NO punishment for ANY crime has EVER been effective in stopping the crime from happening. (otherwise there would never be any crime)
SO there is no argument that the death penalty is just....
Yes there is, that is what everybody have been patiently trying to explain to you, you seem unable to understand what they are saying.