Posted by GIT on July 4, 2011, 2:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Sorry"
3Dee, there are right answers and wrong answers. This is like the catch phrase that there is no relative truth. That all truth is relative to the individual whos truth it is. Problem is, the statement itself, is a definitive statement and if there is no relative truth - one can't even make the statement.
There are Gods ways and not Gods ways.
You keep insisting that one can't accept others where they are unless one "says" or "believes" that their lifestyle is "okay" at least for them.
How many of us accept the lifestyle of drug addiction as okay in the life of someone we love or care about? I mean, do we condone and support this behavior? You may not agree with it, but if it is the path someone chooses, then by this logic, how can it not be considered, "okay"?
As far as evangelizing people here on GCG - I will remind you once again I did not bring up the topic. Your apology, I take it, was not really an apology - it was more of a statement to set me straight in my beliefs.
And if those of you who claim to be accepting people where they are - as whatever lifestyle works for them - where is your acceptance of me, if my lifestyle works for me? What you really mean, is if you agree with me, I will accept you wherever you are. Well, most people do, because if one agrees with this philosophy, then by it, no one has the "right" to judge what we are doing wrong - right?
I reread some of the posts last night - found one where Catcher told me I had a knack for misinterpreting posts - then, I think I found why.
You asked about the Levitical Law - I thought this was directed at me, I think I understand the point now - you were questioning why it still pertains in todays culture. The Levitical Law does not but Gods Word does.
Romans 1:24-27
If you read it all, it pertains to both men and women. Goes into how we worship ourselves(creation) - over the Creator - because basically (like in todays culture), we refuse to abide by His Word and we follow after our own selfish desires. By this, I mean all of us, not just homosexuals, the root of sin is the same, the manifestation in our lives is different.
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I don't pick and choose passages to follow and to not follow. In order to understand God's Word it must be read as a collective whole. God tells us not to judge "people" because only He knows why they are, where they are - we do not have this knowledge. God allows us to judge situations for our own protection as well as to have the ability to "judge" something as beneficial to His Word or not.
God loves everyone of us - and His Word is true for everyone of us. I am not perfect, mostly because I suffer from many imperfections (imagine that), directly stemming from my own humanity. This is the precise reason I cannot judge another human being but God judges us all.
If we use our ways as beacons of light - the light becomes twisted and confused and swallowed up by darkness - that is because we all have different views on the right way. If we use God as the standard however, the path is unattainable but full of His grace and His strength to help each of us begin to change.
Truth is truth, and if I believe that Gods Word is truth, then who am I, to critique His Word - if - I truly believe it is His Word? I would be the creation calling the moves for the Creator. Fallible calling infallible wrong.
With this said, once again, I do not approach anyone who I disagree with something they are doing. I can only pray for what I see and perceive as a need only God can touch. Just as I pray for the needs in my life - I pray for His will to become my will, in order that I may stop sinning (whichever particular sin it is at the time), against Him.
I do not "say" I agree with the sin in my own life nor the life of others - that would make me a biggot and a hypocrite. I also do not claim no sin in my life, again, hypocrite. I get my definition of sin not from the fallible human mind that I possess, but from the infallible God of the Bible. If any of you believe in a different God, that is your choice - we may then agree to disagree.
I will engage any topic that comes up on belief. I do not have all the answers and of course can and have been wrong - being wrong only allows for growth - not shame. Ultimately, in order to follow the God of the Bible, we must follow the God of the Bible. I attempt to do this to the best of my ability and knowledge at this time. I hope that all of us Christians, do so.
I have been in the position of, to each his own - I am not anymore, because I am trying to no longer be afraid to face my own imperfection nor my own inability to make any sustainable change on my own.
I am trying to no longer care if people see my areas of weakness as such, because I have them. The reason I am trying to no longer fear this, is because there is no one alive or has ever lived that is perfect except one. So, recognizing sin as sin in my life or in the lives of others is just recognizing truth and having a starting ground to begin battle. If you disagree, that is fine, but I believe in God and I believe His Word. If I have unfairly misrepresented God's Word and I am wrong, then I will concede to my error. I do not wish to stand in opposition to Him, because quite frankly, one cannot - opposition always leads to a fall. I have fallen many times, and am sure will fall many more.
God Bless you all and hope all of you have a wonderful 4th of July.