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Bradford 2 Boro 0 - Middlesbrough's preseason
Posted by Letchworth Hatter on 23/7/2025, 21:18:44
Poor performances with defensive mistakes.
Late recruitment.
Injuries and players not fit.
Fans blaming Gibson - praising Edwards for being honest and a likeable bloke that isn't being backed enough.
He is no longer at Luton,so not really interested in what he does elsewhere.
Middlesbrough have always been one of the boring clubs a bit like Preston who seem to have very little to cheer about. The journey leads you to the answers..
You're a bit distant there - bits and pieces are coming out now about Edwards behaviour that confirms he lost the dressing room very early in the season and never got it back. 2020 have confirmed mistakes were made about Edwards and have apologised.
We move on to the new season angry about it all (WBA alone makes me angry so there's that doubt about MB too) and hope to divert that towards supporting the lads and not creating a toxic atmos which will put the players off. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
And the assertion that bits and pieces coming out 'confirm he's lost the dressing room early in the season' does that classic thing of presenting surmise as fact. He may or may not have done, who knows, but nothing so far 'confirms' that.
It is an ugly but disappointing and growing trait that people look to utterly destroy a person's track record/personality when expressing (justifiable in this case of course) anger about something that's happened. There was even a post (now deleted for obvious reasons) suggesting that he'd done it all for personal financial gain. Seriously, hang your head AC.
Seemed to me that he was massively hit by the Lockyer thing and also struggled to come to terms with answering PL challenges with limited resources. He's certainly not the only one to find that, some with vastly bigger resources.
We had some brilliant times and nearly made it. Why lose sight of that? Last season was a shambles from day one, don't think anyone would deny that, but to then villify a man who put his heart and health into it is deeply unfair and unpleasant.
As is slating a board trying to do the right thing but not always getting it right.
Hopefully a good start will put this all behind us.
PM sentMr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
You'll be welcomed in Brexit Corner as usual Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
I am going to have go to a darkened room and lay down as I agree with you. The only caveat is that 2020 delayed too long and that is not just with the benefit of hindsight.
I'll have to as well, agreed with you above! What's going on???🙂
Agree that the board hung on too long but in my case that's very much in hindsight. They tried to do the right thing, as ever. Unfortunately,again, some made up stories/guesses/'I heard's/rumours/misunderstandings about post Boro are touted as factual and that becomes 'the story'.
This obsession with ex players and managers is a bit cringe really
He was manager for what a vast majority of our fans would be their greatest day ever supporting Luton Town, I don’t think he deserves the abuse he’s getting really , same as all of a sudden Kaminski and Morris. Well they were shit anyway
We had loads of injuries under Nathan Jones as well
Fair play. I'm just saying stuff is coming out now and there's a lot more that will come out about Edwards - things that only he was responsible for, no one else.
Of course he deserves a hammering, last season was a complete shambles much of which he was directly responsible for. If people want to get things off their chest then they can post what they want. I'm still angry about John Martin, Hants, minus 30, J.C. Lomax being dropped in 1892 etc and will have a rant whenever I like. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Much of what he was responsible for we saw on the pitch - other posts detail the suicidal 2 up top away for instance. All the players dropped at least 10% which backs up RE's loss of the dressing room. I'm not gong to be the first to air the specifics but it's happened before with managers and the whole story comes out much later. If you read biographies then all sorts happen to cause a manager to unravel - losing the dressing room, avoiding decisions, avoiding people, trying to please everyone, indecision, changing tactics but not having the players and so on.
I saw a clip about Mark Warburton the other day. One of hs teams got beaten badly using Plan A. After the game there were murmurings in the dressing room about no Plan B. Warburton said - we just need to get plan A right and no one will live with us. Great policy if it works but fatal if it doesn't. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
He gave us one of the greatest days of our lives, I'll always be thankful to him for that. And I do have some sympathy for him in that 2020 should have let him go after the Middlesbrough away game but insisted he stayed. That said, he was found wanting tactically when it really mattered.
I couldn't care less what Edwards does at Middlesboro, he is no longer our manager. I so wanted to see him succeed here and to walk the team out at Power Court but it was not to be. He virtually begged to be sacked after the Middlesboro game and that was where 2020 made their biggest error in not sending him off to rest after that for his own benefit as well as the clubs.
Totally agree that he was found want tactically. The rumours probably need to be ignored unless someone from the club confirms them.
I've no gripe with him but his stubborness last season severely cost us. Constantly playing 3-5-2 away from home in a thirteen match run of defeats was suicidal. One point from those games would have kept us up.
He did the same in the first three games of the Prem season with the expected outcome but it least he changed it up after that.
I do wonder if he is just your typical egocentric manager who thinks only he is right and everyone else is stupid. It will be interesting to see how he develops at Boro as he does have some decent qualities.
I also think he was a bit awe struck when going up against the likes of Pep and Klopp. I think the Premier League came way too early in his managerial career as it is so different to leagues below.
I do wish him the best, but as RADSB said a lot of what he apparently did off the pitch affected the club. If that is true he caused his own downfall.' Live for today, not for tommorow '
I'm not even sure he was found wanting tactically. I think the mistake was not having a complete clear out (like this season) after relegation. Sheff Utd and Burnley did and they did well, again. It's a nice idea, keep the players and give them a chance to go up and the idea they must be better than than before due to the PL experience. I think that has never been done and it's for a reason. We had a losing mentality and we carried that over into the Champ. If you think you're going to get beaten then you drop your effort. The last ditch tackles , the playing full on until the whistle goes, never say die etc. All the qualities we had as a winning team the season before. I'm probably wrong but that is how it has felt.
He did change tactics this season which caused confusion in the players. He tried possession and playing out from the back but we didn't have the player to do it.
We then reverted to high press, intensity and playing longer for a few games and then switched to a mixtures of both styles. The latter was very dull at home and suicidal away. Playing two up top away leading to 11 defeats in a row was baffling and cost us - even a couple of draws would have kept us up. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
That does sound like the thing I watched. I definitely remember game after game of long ball to attacker (Eli or Carlton) with back to goal. A horrible watch. Playing out from the back I remember less. Either way it did improve under MB so we have reason to be optimistic. I think Saville and Naismith are going to be key.
It might have been Ramridge Raider - who is also excellent. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
The 3rd May well be the biggest alarm bell but only to us that have been there and seen it. If the soft cunts really believe that, then more fool them. Gibson may not be everyone's cup of tea but he's put his money where his mouth is for best part of 30 years. If Edwards is failing(which he will) they'll be none of the righteous morals afforded to Edwards like he had from Sweet, he'll be gone.
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