Tim: that load generates about 38 ft./lbs. of recoil in a 8 1/2# gun. Western's 3" Record 1 3/8 oz. 3 3/4 Dr. Eq. (1295 fps) was about 32 ft/lbs. CIP measures velocity at the muzzle so it is possible that load translates to 1300 fps per SAAMI, or similar to the old Record shell.