Re: this board has become a circle jerk Archived Message
Posted by elcooksta on November 6, 2013, 6:01 am, in reply to "Re: this board has become a circle jerk"
who is getting something for nothing? Just out of curiosity. And I didnt attack anyone or destroy a friendship, I simply walked away. I do enough of this stuff on facebook, I dont need another outlet for it. There is just nothing going on here, so I am walking away. Anyway, at first I saw metal and was like "hey" but then i saw why and thats not cool to insult Ginger, shes good people. So is Metal. Anyway, Ill never see eye to eye with most folks on the internet, because most folks talk different on the internet than they do in real life. Ive spoken to many a person that agrees their companies are hosing them, then on the internet, they will turn around and defend said companies. People are hypocritical, plain and simple. Im guilty of it too some times. Do I think I was duped? No, Im smart enough to read past the bumper sticker answers. Do I think that someone with 400 dollar a month coverage should keep their plan? Yep, but not if you and I are going to have to STILL pay for major procedures that insurance DOESNT cover (like we are now).. I dont see how ANYONE cant see that? Anyway, if you read my facebook, I have, with 75% certainty thrown my hat into the madco political arena..... Dunstan pxssed me off by insulting my intelligence and saying that they know more about the issue than the voters..that never sits well with me. My viewpoints have chanegd over the last few years... They were jingoistic hard right when I was in the military (to be expected, lots of jingoism there). When I entered civilian life, I shifted more towrads the center, because there were certain realities that I had to face that were not there when Nicole, the kids and I served. What shifted me hard left was going to Iraq. If you aint been to REAL war (not internet war), you dont know wtf you are talking about. I saw the war profiteers etc, so that shifted me hard left. BTW, I had a "white guilt 08" sticker on my car. This country STILL leans right, even with Obama in office.... leftists are in Europe. And metal, what are your thoughts on the intrusion of frackers on native Sioux and other indigenous people's lands? I figure you would be passionate about that (and would love to read some of your insight). No, I come here sometimes and all I see is a circle jerk of people patting each other on the back. And then if you disagree, you are stupid. And no, David, this country is not at stake. Im sorry you feel that way, but its not. They say that every 30 years or so. You want real change? Cut the defense budget in half, and re-appropriate those funds to domestic initiatives like infrastructure, civil service, education (the great equalizer), infrastructure, infrastructure. But we'd rather pay for killing that growing. THAT is my base problem. There are a whole lot of people who talk war, and talk things they dont have a friggin clue about because most of them have never left g.c.. You can get life experience in a book. How anyone can throw their lot in with people like Ted Cruz (who by Jeremiah Wright logic, believes that evolution is a communist ploy) OR Nancy Pelosi, they are BOTH bad for this country. One because they are crazy, and two because they are or are going to be political dynasties. And i dont like political dynasties anymore...too reminiscent of lords, and kings. And no, this did not all start in Jan. of 09, if you say that, you are only hurting yourself because it is the most disingenuous thing. Anyway, I didnt intend to get back on here, I did read some things. No I am not misguided because I dont think like you. Who are you to tell me I am misguided? What the hell have you done? As far as the community goes, I give lots of time to coaching, keeping my money in granite the best i can, but im hurting like everyone else (and dont give me the bullshit that it is obama's fault). I will not admit I am getting duped btw, because I didnt. You are getting played with Rove-ian tactics of tweaking your emotions so you miss the larger issue. My personal thoughts? Its the insurance companies. And they are getting off scott free because clowns are out there blaming the President, and they really dont know what they are talking about. Lots of misinformation out there that otherwise intelligent people are buying hook, line, and sinker. And as far as fighting someone for their political views? I got bigger fish to fry. I try to remain sensible, and in the center, but I generally lean left socially and right fiscally. Believe it or not. Anyway, thats enough.... I really am just stepping away because I get mad (and mostly sad) when I come to this board at what people (whatever their views) will buy into. And no, dont give me the Von Nida thing...... you still havent given me any substantial evidence to the contrary...you just run your mouth. Have a fine Navy day folks. I dont hate anyone, dont dislike anyone, Ive only met a few people on this board in person and I like each one of you. And I would and will NEVER kick someone to the curb, or I would have kicked anyone I know who throws their lot in with the world killers to the curb if that was the case. I simply refuse to let those who want to divide us so easily, do so. Its about people, it is not about isms, I dont care about your isms, I think for myself and I seek not a classification, if you want to classify yourself with labels, you go ahead and do so.
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