Opi, as much as I have agreed with you and think that we stand for many of the same principals.... I am not sure that you "get it" anymore. We are no longer a "civil society". It has now come down to the worst in all of us. One because the stakes are so high and two because the stakes are so high. We are at a crossroads, either our Representative Republic, based on the Constitution will prevail and survive or we will witness "the fundamental transformation of America". This will not be a civil debate. Nor should it be, The Creator gives us freedom but it is up to us to preserve it and fight for it. This has never been a civil discussion and I don't think this time will be any different.