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Ford Transit 2.4 TDCi 350 2006 - Non start - Fixed #

Posted by Fiachra Purcell on May 10, 2012, 11:14 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2006
Engine Size and Code *: 2.4 tdci
( Optional ) Scanner Used: Ds708 dec ss2
( Optional) Fault Codes: none

Hello everyone.
I hope someone can help with this.
Van originally came in 3 weeks ago as a breakdown. Owner said cut out going around a corner. Had no diesel in it so put 20 litres in it and bleed it.
Starts up but hesitates around the 2.5k mark. As it hesitates the range screen in the dash kept going blank.
I test drove it and the symptoms disappeared. I put it down to air in the lines.
Van is back today broken down again(van had quarter of a tank but I still put another 20 litres in just in case). It will start but runs roughly for 2 or 3 seconds then dies.
Serially fuel pressure is good and on the scope its good. The IMV valve current mirrors the control signal. The injectors are switching off killing the engine. The range display is blank until the engine is cranking but goes blank again as soon as the key is released.
Owner says the range never went blank before.
I cannot help but think that this is related somehow but cannot figure how.
I have checked all lives and earths as listed by Autodata but there missing the IMV valve so what else are they missing.
Sorry for the essay just trying not to miss anything

Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350

Posted by ian.slattery <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1196' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 11, 2012, 7:27 am, in reply to "Transit 2.4 TDCI 350"
Ian Slattery

Check the wiring loom between the body and the engine.

They can rub on the abs pipe and cause some strange faults

Best checked from underneath.

Any faults in the cluster.

Regards Ian.

Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350

Posted by Fiachra Purcell <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3006' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 11, 2012, 9:11 am, in reply to "Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350"
Fiachra Purcell

Thanks Ian.
I will check the loom next. There are no faults in the cluster. The cluster and the engine show the fuel at above 50%. I read somewhere that that transits will shut the engine down when the fuel gets too low so the pump wont run dry.
I think it is some type of power /communication fault. Rubbed through wiring makes sense.
Thanks. Fiachra

Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350

Posted by Fiachra Purcell <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3006' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 11, 2012, 12:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350"
Fiachra Purcell

I checked the loom. Nothing wrong with it. I even opened up the protective cover to make sure.
The van started this morning with 2 faults in the PCM. A EGR fault and a P0016 cam crank sync fault(even though DS708 shows this as a key fault).
Swith the engine off and the faults disappear until it starts again. When you rev the engine it it hesitates badly and starts dying. That's when the P0016 fault occurs.
I scoped both sensors. Signals look good. There is a very small bit of signal drift when the fault is occurring. About one quarter of a crankshaft tooth.
There is no chain noises.
My question is would this be enough to cause my problem?
The range display is blank until the van starts (I think this is normal). When the van starts hesitating and dying the display starts flashing blank then range comes back. It is completely random but in sequence with the engine dying.
Again sorry about the essay.
Thanks. Fiachra.

Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350

Posted by Fiachra Purcell <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3006' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 14, 2012, 11:39 am, in reply to "Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350"
Fiachra Purcell

I spoke to a Ford mechanic this morning.
He reckons it needs a PCM update. So I have sent it to ford to see what happens.
I will post the outcome as soon as I get it back and have a chance to test it.
Thanks. Fiachra.

Fixed #

Posted by Fiachra Purcell on January 30, 2013, 9:07 am, in reply to "Re: Transit 2.4 TDCI 350"
Message modified by board administrator January 30, 2013, 12:28 pm

This van gave me the runaround.
Dealer did the update and the van behaved itself for three weeks.
The dealer took it back then replaced the IMV valve. Behaved itself for about six weeks this time.
I changed the pressure releif valve on the end of the rail after finding it leaking at idle.
the van stopped three days later.
I recovered it to find no crank signal. Replaced crank sensor. It has been fine since.
I had scoped the crank sensor several times and it was OK.
I think it was the pressure releif valve and the crank sensor was coincidental.
Thanks for all your help.

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