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    How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

    Posted by Earls on 22/2/2026, 7:44:23

    Nobody wants the club to keep going like this.
    How does yesterday become rock bottom, and a sign that the hierarchy - at management, boardroom or both - uses it as impetus for a fresh start.
    As painful as Wilshere’s post-match interview was, it was notable that he now seems to realise fans’ anger is at least in part because the football has been relentlessly crap since 2024, and that he’s just the latest instalment of it.
    The club had the media day with the podcasters when Wilshere was appointed. If it has any answers on what to do now, it needs Sweet to face those same people again. Or, at the very least, to acknowledge Loyal Luton’s statement and meet them, setting out why Sweet is still the man to lead the club.
    If they choose to stay silent, or only communicate via programme notes, this is only going to continue to fester.

      Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

      Posted by Sandgrounder on 22/2/2026, 11:58:35, in reply to "How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

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        Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

        Posted by bbb on 22/2/2026, 8:24:40, in reply to "How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"
        WUM 2

        Starts from the top.

        No matter what Sweet does next, he will be criticised but he's got to give something a go, he can't continue to stay silent.

        A proper statement from him, not the usual patronising bollocks. Holding his hands up to a few faults(that's the big one) explain how and why things are how they are, in his opinion and what his targets are on the pitch. He needs to be genuine and show that he genuinely gives a fuck about more than money.

        Football wise, we can't just keep changing manager but this really is shite. That list of shots by Div3 clubs yesterday said it all. Jack's needs stop over thinking things. Get down the wings cross the ball and have lads getting in the box to meet it.

        As for the Ronnie Henry thing, well that won't be Naismith. That's not the first time this season the angry jock cunt has had a pop at supporters. That's not what a captain/leader does. He might get away with it if he was doing the business on the pitch but let's be honest, most weeks he plays like a wanker. I'd fuck him off out of the squad for a few weeks after that post game yesterday.

        Over all though it's Sweet that needs to lead from the top. That's his job. Not just leave the players and manager to take the grief. No Billy Big bollocks and stay humble Gary.

          Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

          Posted by ELH on 22/2/2026, 9:09:53, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

          Pretty much agree. Jack is right that we do need to accept where we are now. That's just reality - we are in League 1, we're going to be in League 1 next season and we have a squad that lacks the quality, balance and leadership to go up, regardless of how well or badly it is organised.

          However we do need some honest explanations of how we got to this situation and what is being done about it. That comes from the top as you say.

          Without those there is no reason to think lessons have been learned and what it the current reality will improve. There's probably no reason to think it won't get worse in fact.

            Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

            Posted by Earls on 22/2/2026, 8:41:53, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

            Yeah, agreed on all of that. As you say, Sweet admitting mistakes seems to be a problem for him. But if he can’t or won’t accept his role in it all…
            Getting players in the box is an issue, which is why dropping Cole was a daft one. Obviously Wells’ finish was great, but it’s so tedious seeing him on the wing in the first half, putting a decent cross into the box for…who, exactly? Himself?
            And yes, Naismith is no captain. On about 80 minutes, he messed up a simple pass to Jones and tried having a right go at Jones. Who just laughed at him. (In among yesterday’s farce, Jones at RB was my MoM.)
            There’s one tiny mitigating factor in all this, as a mate said at half-time: we’re really missing Bramall. He’d be my captain - Clark is too nice.

              Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

              Posted by MG on 22/2/2026, 8:47:20, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

              Jones played well in many ways but he did tend to drift all over the pitch leaving us exposed.

              Whether that's a Jones issue, not playing to instructions, or others not being disciplined enough to fill in for him I don't know, but it very nearly cost us more than once.

                Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                Posted by Zobra The Greek on 22/2/2026, 8:51:48, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                I noticed this too. Positionally he wasn’t great.

                  Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                  Posted by Earls on 22/2/2026, 9:07:27, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                  I thought he was wayward first half and improved in the second. What pleasantly surprised me, as I hadn’t thought Jones defensive enough to be a RB, is that his tackling was decent.
                  I still say he was MoM, though I appreciate picking one yesterday is World’s Tallest Dwarf.

                    Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                    Posted by Zobra The Greek on 22/2/2026, 9:16:46, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                    He wasn’t bad, I just noticed he drifted inside a lot. And there was one moment in the second half where he’d sort of moved to the left wing and there were no centre halves to be seen and their striker was clean open, but luckily their player in possession didn’t pick him out

              Best thing that could happen

              Posted by m on 22/2/2026, 8:36:48, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

              Miss out on the playoffs. Like we did when Still took over. Was a massive wake up call
              Summer go and recruit some proven League one players who know what it takes in this league.

              Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

              Posted by E5 Hat on 22/2/2026, 7:56:43, in reply to "How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

              Something is really off mentally in our club, others clubs have a big moment like we did vs Bradford and kick on, we somehow manage to get worse! Many screamed to get rid of players, bring in new - nothing changes. No surprise that everyone that left us this season seems now to be kicking on, so is our recruitment team the issue… All leads to a DOF - an experienced and tough individual who will command respect.

                Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                Posted by Jake on 22/2/2026, 8:23:31, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                How can it be the recruitment team when players they recruited are doing ok now they are not with us.

                I think the fans and the club need to get together as Earls says.

                There are problems to solve on both sides.

                The perceived bad management and the whispers of something underhand going on at the top.

                The football decisions of the manager and his team.
                The slow boring tactics and how difficult it is to enjoy.

                The players who understandably feel they are taking the blame for 3 failed seasons.

                The fans for their over reaction yesterday.

                I truly believe that everybody is hurting not one person in the club or supporting the club is not pissed off with our fall, but screaming abuse is not on.
                It has never made things better and never will.

                In real terms we are not going to get promoted but we are not going to relegated either, hopefully people accept this now and we have the chance to build.

                As Earls says the quicker everyone ,the board the management,the fans can get on the same track the better.

                The negativity is probably as low now as it was when we were first in the conference, yesterday being the equivalent of the Stevenage game.
                Let's hope it doesn't take as long as it did then to turn it around.


                Bring compassion back.

                  Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                  Posted by Ramridge Raider on 22/2/2026, 9:06:01, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                  I thought it was more the equivalent of the Mansfield 2-3 game when Buckle had just left. Similar time of year and like now, no real chance of play-off's. We got bullied that day and we got bullied yesterday.

                  Mansfield was a real low point for me and I didn't think anything would match it. Yesterday ran it pretty close.

                    Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                    Posted by Jake on 22/2/2026, 9:24:56, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                    Yes a good comparison.

                    It is all very bleak.


                    Bring compassion back.

                    Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                    Posted by RM on 22/2/2026, 8:32:55, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                    Those players that left were not showing any form that would fit into JWs preferred formation/style.
                    Makosso gave the ball away most times he was in possession, JW rightly or wrongly wants the ball passed out from the back. Nordas couldnt link the play and wasn't a goal threat, Wells was preferred even though he had no goal threat, Alli appeared to have gorgotten how to get past his full back and Bamall came in and played really well.
                    Fanne was just inconsistent.
                    Certain players will fit certain managers, that's just the way it is.

                      Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                      Posted by Shutupya on 22/2/2026, 9:35:15, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                      Perhaps manager should show some flexibility and play to the strengths of the players

                      You know round pegs round holes

                        Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                        Posted by RM on 22/2/2026, 16:08:18, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                        Maybe, but if Makosso keeps passing to the opposition,what's the managers option, let him keep doing it?
                        If Bramall and Kodua perform better than Alli what's the option?
                        Sometimes fans have short memories of how players have played.

                        Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                        Posted by Jake on 22/2/2026, 9:10:09, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                        Agree on certain types for certain managers.

                        The recruitment team have had 3 different managers input on the type of players they want in a very short space of time it really can't be easy.

                        They get a ridiculous amount of shit , for what really hasn't been an easy time.

                        I feel sorry for them .


                        Bring compassion back.

                      Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                      Posted by Earls on 22/2/2026, 8:03:14, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                      It’s been clear for ages a DoF is needed. Question is, would Sweet let him do his job without interference, given his current role in signing off on everything? If so, that’d certainly at least be a proper fresh start.
                      But until/if a DoF is appointed, there needs to be an acknowledgment that it’s currently gone wrong, and how it’ll change.

                        Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                        Posted by RM on 22/2/2026, 8:08:03, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                        What makes you think the board could be trusted to employ the right person as a DoF.
                        The likelihood is they would employ Sajid mark 2.

                          Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                          Posted by RM on 22/2/2026, 8:10:26, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                          Sajjad whatever his name is!

                            Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                            Posted by Earls on 22/2/2026, 8:19:57, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                            If Yousuf Sajjad left, I don’t think anyone would be too unhappy. I do have some sympathy for him.
                            In the current set-up, we clearly haggled too much over a lot of January targets, resulting in the last-minute panic signing of Sandal, who hasn’t played since November and has got injured trying to get up to speed. Sajjad can’t be blamed for that farcical timing.

                              Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                              Posted by Carp Fisher on 22/2/2026, 9:45:59, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                              But the same people are still in the club when we have had our best windows – i.e., getting business done early. But we have not tried to replicate that.

                                Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                                Posted by Notorious D on 22/2/2026, 13:45:30, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                                No they aren’t.. Nathan Jones..?!

                                Apart from NJ’s tenure and the conference winning season under Still, our recruitment (much like their managerial appointments) has been dire.

                                I think we all need to accept that radical change is required at the very top of the club, to initiate any kind of impetus; the alternative is carry on in the never ending Death spiral.

                                  Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                                  Posted by Carp Fisher on 23/2/2026, 5:31:52, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                                  He was the manager but Sweet and co would have seen how well that window worked.

                                  Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                                  Posted by Earls on 22/2/2026, 9:56:03, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                                  Ah yes, but “Parachute Tax” means we’re now held to ransom, which is why we can’t buy first-choice targets anymore.

                                    Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                                    Posted by Carp Fisher on 22/2/2026, 10:04:52, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                                    I personally think that is an excuse. Why do things happen to us that don't seem to affect other clubs? I cannot find another club lamenting this fabled "Parachute Tax", it's just another case where we are not owning our mistakes – much like alienating agents with unneeded comments about a necessary evil of the modern game.

                      Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                      Posted by pingu on 22/2/2026, 7:47:34, in reply to "How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                      it could be solved so easily:

                      a) tell us wtf is going on.

                      b) spend some money on decent players and a decent manager.

                        Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                        Posted by deeuu on 22/2/2026, 7:58:09, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"

                        There are going to be many think long and hard about spending hard earned cash, given what is being served up.

                        I had two away games planned, but what is the point.

                        How can you go from having season ticket waiting lists, to people considering not renewing.

                        Hate to say it, but I wouldn’t trust Jack to coach an under 10’s team.

                        Recruitment is a joke.



                        Some things are best ignored.

                          Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?

                          Posted by bbb on 22/2/2026, 8:40:35, in reply to "Re: How does this become Ronnie Henry 2?"
                          WUM 2

                          Definitely. The Wycombe and Wimbledon games are ball ache and expensive for me but was still up for doing them. Probably won't now.
                          Not sure I can be bothered doing any more home games this season either tbh.

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