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    Re: That irritates me too Archived Message

    Posted by 3Dee on November 11, 2019, 12:38 pm, in reply to "That irritates me too"

    Right...the club has different clauses where the rights are waived up front. In my locale, I am a Costco member and happily waive my rights there, because I agreed to it.

    But at businesses open to the public, where one need not be a member to shop - no such agreement exists and the sixth amendment still applies.

    I suppose there may be a gray area if shoplifting is suspected or there is truly a warrant to detain the customer. Otherwise, compliance with waiving one's rights is voluntary.

    Otherwise two rights apply --- from unlawful detaining...and from unreasonable search or seizure.

    I never got into all this 'Know your Rights' stuff, being of the belief that as long as I myself kept on the right side of the law (morally, not politically) that I wouldn't have to worry about any of it. I mean what do I have to hide?

    However, I don't like trickery. I am used to being lied to, so that's not a pet peeve any longer. But I don't like trickery and there is a difference. Liars just want to look good and generally just try to bolster themselves a little more than what is really there. I can live with that.

    However, I can't live with the types of lies that take advantage of people.

    This is a common ground that political affiliation has nothing to do with (though some could disagree.) Just a casual conversation --- and by engaging in it, people have waived their fifth amendment rights and testified against themselves without even knowing it.

    No matter who's in charge --- that creeps me out in any time or season.

    Before I became WOKE (just using that word as a teaser this time, don't read into it) to this.. I know the times I tried to talk myself out of tickets. What I was really doing was confessing.

    Imagine how that works with weightier matters...

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