Wow CrackerJack, Ike didnt beat Tina that bad. The phoniness i think is what bothers me more than anything else. They are always themselves what they portray us to be. They want to play the game, just as long as they choose the setting, keep score and have their own referees. I have to give the left credit though, they are loyal and they never ever quit. They are big on group think and they dont care what they have to do to achieve their objectives. Ive seen some that make our Open Minded friend seem like a fence sitting moderate. Sure thats scary, but its the truth. Open Minded, stop the madness, stop this, "Oh if we could just all get along and stop this us verses them stuff." Its disingenuous, sad and pathetic. You have no intentions of stopping and neither do we. Why lie about even that?