Re: CRNA Resistance Attention: To BobArchived Message
Posted by DC on January 27, 2009, 6:04 pm, in reply to "Re: CRNA Resistance"
Hi Bob I would like to share something with you and please don't take it offensively. You said you started a couple of IV's titrated a few gtts (drips), took care of critical patients with out some one holding my hand and telling me what to do next.
With all do respect Bob before you became a nurse what did you do?..what's the difference vs. AA-S (student anesthetist)?..you knew nothing about what I just mention cited above you had to learn every thing as a SN (student nurse) in school and on the floor (hands on experience) in addition to being familiar with vents, drugs, ECG's, running code, & sterile technique etc., in order to become proficient in your skills as a nurse.
It's the same manner as an AA-S/RN,AA-S = AA-C who have no medical or nursing experience. Yes they have a tremendous learning curve but they learn it and they grasp it, It's part of the program with heavy clinical involved. Remember you did the same thing as a student nurse (SN) in becoming a R.N. .
Yes having all those basic things in ICU has help you or have given you an edge in CRNA program. But it doesn't mean your better qualified to anesthetize patient as a CRNA vs. an AA-C/RNAA-C because your a NURSE sorry I have to disagree with you. Both anesthetists AA-C/RNAA-Cs and CRNAs are excellent mid-level providers FACT!.
In reality you may not have some one holding your hand but they are telling you what to do next as a new grad nurse (Your R.N. Preceptor) on the floor especially ICU such as important protocols do's and dont's. You just didn't walk in an ICU critical care unit yesterday with no type of nursing school curriculum with didactics, labs, and clinical rotation experience before handling critical patients.
It's no difference if I were working at a McDonald's fast food store or working at a Macy's department store and I decide to pursue my career in becoming a R.N.. I have never worked in an hospital nor have I ever titrated gtts (drips), push drugs, perform assessments on patients, listen for breath sounds, run a code ACLS&PALS certified, hang pressers (levophed), operate intra aortic balloon pump machine (IABP), operate CVVHD machine, managing ventilator machine, wet to dry dressing change all types including burns etc.
Everything I just mention cited above you learned and were taught in school or on the unit (floor) by a preceptor educator to make sure you knew what you were doing before letting you lose on your own. You had a tremendous learning curve to in becoming a nurse with no experience in the nursing profession think about it.
In closing Bob regardless whether your in CRNA or AA-C program, both school require that you have didactics, classroom/laboratory, clinical anesthesia education and anesthetize patients before graduating from the program all on a Masters degree level not on a Bachelor's degree level.
In my opinion we need to stop comparing who's better when it comes to CRNA vs. AA-C/RNAA-C if nurses can and are AA-Cs then what does that say?..it says there on equal setting vs. CRNA.
FACT:There are AA-Cs who do train and teach SRNA (students anesthetist)= CRNA. Just be grateful Bob that God had bless you with the knowledge and talent to become an CRNA there are a lot of people who would love to walk or be in your shoes. There are also people who would love to walk or be in AA-Cs shoes as well.
I have tremendous respect for both anesthetist CRNAs and AA-C/RNAA-Cs how ever I don't approve how the AANA use politics to block the AAAA profession and disrespect their fellow R.N.s who are physician extender nurse anesthetist (PENA)= RNAA-C from gaining practice rights in all states and opening more AA programs that's desperate needed to combat the shortage of anesthesia (mid-level providers in the ACT).
Just because a nurse decides to go AA-C route vs. CRNA route does not mean there turning their back on nursing. The bottom line is there still a nurse anesthetist as allied health profession.
I sincerely wish you all the best Bob in CRNA program. I just hope your not Anti-AA-C/RNAA-C your best friend may just be an AA-C/RNAA-C or you may be workig with AA-Cs at a hospital one day.