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Jaguar X Type 2.2 BG 2009 - Non start - Fixed #

Posted by Colin Hedger on July 12, 2016, 2:23 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2009
Engine Size and Code *: 2.2 BG

Hi,
I'm looking for any assistance on this one.
The car came in from another garage after mis fuelling.
After the other garage drained and restarted it with diesel, it went for another 100 miles then conked out.
I originally thought no low pressure supply so gave it my own LP supply to the filter, still no start.
Cranking fuel pressure around 350 bar. Found excessive leak off to no 4 injector so replaced and coded that injector.Started immediately and then ran for 10 mins (idle)Re checked leak off which was now about the same on all 4 injectors.When I then disconnected my LP supply the car ran but died and would not restart.opened the filter and found some iron filings inside.Renewed the HP pump, cleaned the pipes and rail and again it started and ran for 3 mins (idle). Now wont restart.
Took all 4 injectors out to be tested (Diesel services Uxbridge)and they've just called to say all injectors more or less within limits.
I cant remember the codes, I'll post them later, but I think there were turbo codes and gearbox codes, nothing I thought would prevent starting.
The pump cranks up to 350 bar almost immediately and then tries to fire but dies as the pressure drops again?
Should I re code all 4 injectors? Does the pump need coding? Does it have a LP pump or not?
Thank you

Colin.

Re: Jaguar X type non start.

Posted by Tony Ludford <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5539' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 12, 2016, 8:45 pm, in reply to "Jaguar X type non start."
Tony Ludford

What's the fuel quality like? Did the other garage drain/flush the system properly or just pump out what they could?
I've learnt to never believe anything another garage has done!!

Re: Jaguar X type non start.

Posted by Joe Ofarrell <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3685' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 12, 2016, 9:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Jaguar X type non start."
Joe O'farrell

Hi Colin

I agree check fuel quality first.

Maybe worth check timing chain hasn't jumped, when trying to restart on extended cranking, especially if its high mileage

Thanks

Joe

Re: Jaguar X type non start.

Posted by Colin Hedger <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1335' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 12, 2016, 10:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Jaguar X type non start."
Colin Hedger

I have no facility for accurately checking the fuel, except to say that I had a long chat with the first garage who said they insisted on seeing the fuel receipt which showed the owner definatly filled up with diesel the second time, and after all,they did do 100 miles after filling up before it packed up.
A good point about the timing chain, but it has run a couple of times whilst with me, all be it only for a few minutes.
Has given me food for thought though, thank you both.
Will let you know how I get on, but wishing I had'nt taken this one on.

Colin

Re: Jaguar X type non start.

Posted by Colin Hedger <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1335' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 12, 2016, 10:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Jaguar X type non start."
Colin Hedger

Sorry, forgot to show codes:
P1816 Transmission neutral safety switch circuit falure
P1260 Security input.Theft detected.Vehicle immobilised theft detected - engine disabled
P2291 Injector control pressure too low during engine cranking
P132a Turbo/supercharger boost control A electrical
P132b turbo/supercharger boost control A performance
P1700 Transmission indeterminate failure Failed to neutral.

I think P2291 was my own doing. Codes clear but 132a 132b and 1700 come back.
Car has done 110k
Thanks

Colin

Re: Jaguar X type non start.

Posted by Colin Hedger <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1335' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 13, 2016, 9:34 pm, in reply to "Jaguar X type non start."
Colin Hedger

Still struggling with the above!
Looked today in live data (engine)and under:
Vehicle security access status
When you put the key in and turn the ign on it changes from N/A to 'Denied' ?
Surely if this was an immobiliser problem it would'nt crank?
Does the immobiliser cut the starter, or prevent it from firing, or both?

colin

Fixed #

Posted by Colin Hedger on November 24, 2016, 5:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Jaguar X type non start."
Edited by board administrator November 25, 2016, 11:28 am

To end this post:

No timing problem.The security access status was a red herring (Launch!). I removed and cleaned out the fuel tank to the best of my ability. It has no LP pump in tank (contrary to what the Jaguar parts guy told me).
Once refitted and fueled I gave it my own LP supply again and it eventually started.
Left it running for 5 mins then disconnected my LP supply and all starting good.
The other codes were relevant as It also needed a new Turbo.
Thank anyway

Colin

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