Ford Transit 2.4 Di D2FB 2004 - Loss of power - Fixed #
Posted by Lee Morton on March 8, 2013, 11:44 am
Year of Manufacture *: 2004 Engine Size and Code *: 2.4 DI code code d2fb ( Optional) Fault Codes: no codes
hi iv got a transit 2.4 di d2fb that we fitted an injection pump (vp30) about 1 month ago customer supplied , it has been brought in with a complaint of a loss of power and then when switched off wont start just turns over i have no codes and no engine lights on immoboliser light goes out but van just cranks give it a hint of easy start and it fires instant and idles perfect . Being concerned about fuel quality i have ran this on a seperate fuel supply and seperate fuel filter and housing (new), once started (after bleeding fuel )the van ran and started on the key every time hot or cold probem solved or so i thought Next mornig gives it a final try and starts up ok within a few seconds anyway still on my seperate fuel supply however when switched off non start and wont start nearly all day unless a easy start used, i have fuel up to the injectors if i open the pipes seems like plenty coming out too but when i attach an injector it does not fire the injector as if pressure not enough to open injector yet a hint of easy start and injector fires. i am thinking that the easy start is giving a faster engine speed thus creating more pressure to fire injectors, after checking for leaks on pump and by passing all pipes to pump i evently got it running and starting on the key even after leaving for an hour thinking it must of been drawing air through the pipes that i had now bypassed, left over night only to find this morning starts up fine intially but then wont start on key sfter running for 10 minutes now a non start does any one now what could cause the pressure to fail so intermittant i am unsure if its worth checking compression/timing as seeing the problem is the injector not firing not sure if this would be conclusive i should also mention crank speed seems fine and have a fully charged battery coolant temp seems plausible in data too any one suggest any help i am thinking this pump is failing it wa a reconditioned unit supplied by customer thanks lee
Re: ford transit
Posted by Kevin Apps on March 8, 2013, 4:51 pm, in reply to "ford transit " Kevin Apps
Lee
This is the problem in allow customers to supply parts.
Most likely the cheapest pump he could find !!
Kev.
Re: ford transit
Posted by Alan Lange on March 8, 2013, 8:41 pm, in reply to "Re: ford transit " Alan Lange
Hello Lee, I had the same problem on my own van a few years ago after I fitted a fuel metering solenoid. I ended up putting a prime pump in the feed line, loosening the solenoid & priming. Also I took the injector pipes off & pumped primer while turning the engine with a spanner on the crank bolt. It was a right mare but as I had only changed metering solenoid I figured there had to be trapped air in the pump. Got there in the end.
Re: ford transit
Posted by Shane Gray on March 9, 2013, 11:36 am, in reply to "Re: ford transit " Shane Gray
Hi lee, I,m sure there is a procedure on ids to bleed system. If I remember it is half turn of engine and slacken 2 injector pipes and bleed and then another half turn, then the last 2 pipes. You bleed right to the injectors. Sorry I can't be precise as I don't have ids and I can't remember exact details. Maybe someone with ids can help? Shane
Re: ford transit
Posted by aidan birley on March 9, 2013, 6:10 pm, in reply to "Re: ford transit " Aidan Birley
Hi
Bleeding info is on AD
Fuel system bleeding Quote
Renew all injector pipes removed. Hand-tighten injector pipes at injectors. Tighten injector pipes at pump to 35 Nm. Remove the fuel supply line to the fuel filter. Install hand pressure pump inline between fuel filter and fuel supply line. Ford No. 310-110. Ensure arrow on hand pressure pump is pointing towards fuel filter. Remove crankshaft position (CKP) sensor. Insert timing tool in CKP sensor housing. Ford No. 303-675 (21-234). Slowly rotate engine until tool locates fully into flywheel. Paint alignment marks on crankshaft pulley and timing cover. Remove timing tool from CKP sensor housing. Install CKP sensor. Ensure engine is still at TDC. Operate the hand pressure pump until fuel is seen to escape from one of the injector pipes. Tighten injector pipe to 35 Nm. Using paint mark as a reference, rotate crankshaft pulley through 180°. Repeat previous operations until remaining injectors have been bled. Check for fuel leaks.
Cheers Aidan
Re: ford transit
Posted by leemorton on March 11, 2013, 10:16 am, in reply to "Re: ford transit " Lee Morton
thanks for the repies guys ill give it a go this morning , are you guys suggesting the initial problem was trapped air and that s why its come back even after so long or do you think i have trapped air since changing the filter housing
Re: ford transit
Posted by Alan Lange on March 11, 2013, 9:58 pm, in reply to "Re: ford transit " Alan Lange
I drove mine a couple of hundred miles & it wouldn't bleed itself-still poor starting & low power until I bled it manually. Wish I'd looked on autodata now!