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Peugeot 307 HDi 2005 - Non start, economy mode, codes P0341, p0104, P0113 & P0422 - Fixed #

Posted by Pete Mutlow on June 19, 2012, 2:31 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2005
Engine Size and Code *: 1.6
( Optional ) ECU Type: Bosch EDC 16
( Optional ) Scanner Used: ACR G4
( Optional) Fault Codes: PO 341, 104, 113, and 422

Hi All,

I would appreciate a pointer on this one. This vehicle was running perfectly ok until the owner decided to have the injector seals changed. The battery was disconnected during this procedure and has failed to start since. The dashboard is showing "Economy Mode".

The faults present are:

PO341 Camshaft Position Sensor
PO104 Mass Air Flow Meter
PO113 Air Temp Sensor
PO422 Catalyst efficiency

The vehicle cranks over and will run on a sniff of Easy Start. Live data is showing fuel rail pressure of 8 bar. I have no idea what this should be. I have tried the re-boot process as thus:

http://www.bba-reman.com/content.aspx?content=peugeot_bsi_reboot_process

The fault codes will not clear down and the vehicle remains in Economy Mode.

I would welcome your thoughts on why it is now a non-starter and the way forward.

Regards

Pete M

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by carl ford <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1822' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 19, 2012, 2:44 pm, in reply to "Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Carl Ford

Hi Pete

These need in excess of 200bar to run, I would personally be checking all my reference and voltage signals at the maf and cmp.

The wiring that goes around the top cambelt cover is known for breaking/chafing so maybe worth a look but it sounds to me like a possible man made fault if it was o.k before injector seals were changed.

Dont woory about economy mode that will go once the vehicle is running again,

Regards
Carl

p.s I assume you have already done a spill test?

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by Pete Mutlow <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1569' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 19, 2012, 3:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Peter Mutlow

Thanks Carl,

Interesting about the lack of fuel pressure. The injector seals were replaced because 2 were "blowing" which could be heard from within the car. I wonder if this is related.

Regards

Pete M

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by carl ford <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1822' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 19, 2012, 4:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Carl Ford

To me if it ran before and now it doesnt then it has to be something that they have done.

If I was you I would retrace there steps checking everything and even making sure injector pipes are tight and not slacked off for bleeding

Regards
Carl

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by Craig Hewison <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3409' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 19, 2012, 6:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Craig Hewson

Did you clean the injectors whilst they were out and if so how? I had a similar issue after changing injector seals once and it was because i had been too thorough cleaning the injector tips! A set of new injectors were the cure!!! oops

hth
Craig

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by Pete Mutlow <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1569' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 19, 2012, 9:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Peter Mutlow

Thanks Craig,

Fortunately, it was not me who changed the seals, but I will pose the question tomorrow. Initially, one seal went a few weeks ago and then when another decided to let go, she had the other 3 changed.

My question would be....would this cause a drop in fuel rail pressure?

Regards

Pete M

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 19, 2012, 10:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Mark Carter

>>> Did you clean the injectors whilst they were out and if so how? I had a similar issue after changing injector seals once and it was because i had been too thorough cleaning the injector tips! <<<

Sorry but however you clean the tip of the injector it will not affect the pressure in the rail. (it may well stop it starting but not the pressure generation)

Look for the lowest common denominator.

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by promis christodoulou <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3441' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 20, 2012, 12:12 am, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"

I would start at the beginning, check to see if its been bled up correctly. air in the fuel system could reduce fuel pressure. lack of fuel ie low...
chris

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by Craig Hewison <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3409' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 22, 2012, 8:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Craig Hewson

No the fuel pressure was fine, think it must have just screwed the spray pattern, was a while ago now and I'm not renown for my memory lol

hth
Craig

Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode

Posted by Steve Shaw <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1301' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 25, 2012, 11:34 am, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Steve Shaw

my money is on a bent pin in the multiplug for all the injectors, if not enough care is taken when refitting.
don't ask me how i know that can happen!

Steve

Fixed #

Posted by Pete Mutlow on July 2, 2012, 7:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Peugeot 307 HDI - Non Start - Economy Mode"
Message modified by board administrator July 5, 2012, 2:47 pm

Evening all,

This vehicle has been fixed by replacing 2 injectors that were apparently damaged and all 4 injector seals were replaced (again). Also, a number of fuses had blown (?) and the camshaft position sensor was replaced. According to the customer, the fuel return pipe was leaking.

Many thanks to all those who took the time and interest on this one.

Regards

Pete M

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