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The next time your liberal friend assures you that Democrats are not for providing illegals . . .

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 12:25:25
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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

More on the bullshit from the left:

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 7, 2025, 12:38:57, in reply to "The next time your liberal friend assures you that Democrats are not for providing illegals . . ."
weiner sleeve

https://x.com/CollinsforTX/status/1975333417534562351?fbclid=IwY2xjawNSLzZleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETE1M0poTFlGbkRscVBsMVRxAR4_22LnnfA25A7TBcH9BOvPOeg2ityyGbU8upkhz6N8V3YjbeefTp2LZqqU9A_aem_42atayvuTo35MuDxkBPi8A

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

What a weekend for Obama and Hilary

Posted by WesMantooth <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=WesMantooth' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 7:22:33, in reply to "The next time your liberal friend assures you that Democrats are not for providing illegals . . ."

Bwuahahah.

Another democrat conspiracy theory proven not only false but implicates Obama in creating it.

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Uneducated Redneck Piece of Shit

What did I miss?*

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 7:55:03, in reply to "What a weekend for Obama and Hilary"

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Bwuahahah.

Another democrat conspiracy theory proven not only false but implicates Obama in creating it.

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

Apparently I missed the details of the news story in late July

About Obama ordering the Russia collusion investigation after Trump won

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Bwuahahah.

Another democrat conspiracy theory proven not only false but implicates Obama in creating it.

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Uneducated Redneck Piece of Shit

That only confirmed what most on the right had known for years.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 10:46:45, in reply to "Apparently I missed the details of the news story in late July"

The difference between a "conspiracy theory" and reality is just a matter of time.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

Yeah it’s about 95% accuracy on right wing conspiracy theories being correct

Posted by WesMantooth <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=WesMantooth' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 14:35:56, in reply to "That only confirmed what most on the right had known for years."

The Haitians in Springfield, OH eating the cats and dogs about the only one that’s mostly false?

Hunter’s laptop

Covid built in a lab

Covid mask theater

Covid vaccine unsafe for young (males especially)

Artic ice levels (but everyone knew the impact of global warming was non sense)

The party of “trust the science” has some bad scientists!

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The difference between a "conspiracy theory" and reality is just a matter of time.

Uneducated Redneck Piece of Shit

And based on all the others, I still believe cats and dogs have been eaten

Posted by groupguy <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=groupguy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 16:04:56, in reply to "Yeah it’s about 95% accuracy on right wing conspiracy theories being correct"

I personally saw bbq cat meat in Panama City, so anyone who says it could never happen is a lying sack of shit.

And I’m not saying it did, but you know what I’m saying.

yep*

Posted by stubborn <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=stubborn' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 9:26:02, in reply to "Apparently I missed the details of the news story in late July"
naw I don't care

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About Obama ordering the Russia collusion investigation after Trump won

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Bwuahahah.

Another democrat conspiracy theory proven not only false but implicates Obama in creating it.

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

What?

Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*

Posted by JeffFrank <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=JeffFrank' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 3:56:02, in reply to "The next time your liberal friend assures you that Democrats are not for providing illegals . . ."
Ish Cookoff Champion 2016

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Illiniphil is a mindless robot

Never happens. I’ve easily provided 8 figures worth of uncompensated care in my career.

Posted by nash <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=nash' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 5, 2025, 11:10:53, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

But that also includes homeless folk etc.

Of course not. It's illegal. And it's a tremendous cost that the logans of this world . . .

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 6, 2025, 10:48:04, in reply to "Never happens. I’ve easily provided 8 figures worth of uncompensated care in my career."
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. . . never stop to consider.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

LOL. You realize you just made the case for kicking these illegals out, right?*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 19:25:37, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"
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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

Doesn’t happen. Why ask? You don’t understand this subject*

Posted by AceFrehley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=AceFrehley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 13:48:28, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Illegal space alien arrives from Jupiter. Take him to Area 51 or let him/her/it die? *

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 9:56:25, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

It could happen.

What will you do?? What WILL you do??

Jeff, how many times do you have to be proven wrong before you figure it out?*

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 9:22:07, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

Same as in China, Singapore, Switzerland- treat, bill, and deport for non-payment

Posted by groupguy <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=groupguy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 8:40:01, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

Ask for up front payment for all treatment, and use debt recovery methods.

There are no free health care plans for illegals in those countries, why in ours?

Law requires person be treated, as it should*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 8:03:54, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Pretty simple solution

Posted by oklegend <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=oklegend' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 7:45:42, in reply to "Illegal has heart attack and shows up at hospital. Let him die?*"

Very simple: illegal shows up at ER with heart attack, the hospital saves them and then ICE comes in at discharge and they are permanently deported with provision that if they are ever caught in US again, they do 20 years in prison.

Deal?

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Y'all gotta understand that I'm slow on the uptake and live in the deep south, so pardon

Posted by fratstud <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=fratstud' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 15:08:32, in reply to "The next time your liberal friend assures you that Democrats are not for providing illegals . . ."
Go Zags!

my ignorance underlying this conspiracy theory, but my understanding of this issue is that it deals with Medicare or Medicaid reimbursement for illegals. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there are major hospital systems in places like California, NYC, Chicago, Phoenix, etc. that will be stricken with untold financial hardship if there isn't some sort of gravy train from Uncle Sugar to the hospitals for these costs and that's why the issue is so big.

The Democrats could never fucking admit this, of course, because to admit it would be to admit that the number of illegals is far higher than ever reported and their major accretion to US GDP is a total farce created by the media. If my conspiracy theory is correct, and I of course think it is, I don't really know the answer to this impasse short of getting the Democrats to admit the problem in writing and then allowing ICE outposts in emergency rooms in exchange for funding.

I mean, if you stop and think about it using modern leftist ideology that's really the only humanitarian solution. We all know that the US is literally the worst country ever and that it is run by a fascist and chock full of racists. It's just a bad place generally. And add to that the fact that Michael Moore conclusively proved how much better health care was in Cuba than the US. So wouldn't we technically be doing Guadalupe a favor by stabilizing her condition at the ER and then getting her on the first bus back home so she doesn't get stuck navigating our terrible healthcare system and living in our terrible country?

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

"Iowa women were better than Illini men" - Potomac

You said something without sarcasm and confused me for a bit there, but if I had overstayed my visa

Posted by groupguy <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=groupguy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 9:15:02, in reply to "Y'all gotta understand that I'm slow on the uptake and live in the deep south, so pardon"

in China and had to go to the hospital, I’m pretty sure they’d have made me leave.

The world has so much sadness, how to fix it all? One little case at a time, starting with illegal alien criminals, Jihadists, and drug cartels.

The question wasn’t free healthcare (though some on stage would have provided that)*

Posted by Loggins <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Loggins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 12:34:12, in reply to "The next time your liberal friend assures you that Democrats are not for providing illegals . . ."

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

whatever you gotta tell yourself, buddy.

Posted by arthurkirkland <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=arthurkirkland' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 14:23:11, in reply to "The question wasn’t free healthcare (though some on stage would have provided that)*"

after all, you didn't really mean defund the police either. and sure, you wanted a closed border just as bad as any of us! and those schools and businesses staying closed during covid... well that was just something that needed to happen in the interest of safety.

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

No idea*

Posted by Loggins <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Loggins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 14:33:26, in reply to "whatever you gotta tell yourself, buddy."

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

no integrity.

all i ask is you own your agenda. i happen to remember that debate. "free college for undocumented immigrants" was also kicked around. after the debate they stopped doing the "raise your hand" thing, because it was only going to embarrass them down the road if they had to be held to their actual position on an issue.

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

My agenda is smooth music and keeping the fire*

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

give my regards to viv.*

Posted by arthurkirkland <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=arthurkirkland' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 15:24:54, in reply to "My agenda is smooth music and keeping the fire*"

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. . . free healthcare.

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1532975097865415

Government provided health insurance for illegal aliens.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 13:25:36, in reply to "The question wasn’t free healthcare (though some on stage would have provided that)*"
weiner sleeve

What are the illegal aliens contributing towards that?

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

Some were single payer some were government exchanges like Obamacare that could be purchased by

Posted by Loggins <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Loggins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 14:32:11, in reply to "Government provided health insurance for illegal aliens. "

Illegal aliens

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What are the illegal aliens contributing towards that?

Aren't the exchanges and Obamacare all government/tax payer subsidized?*

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 16:08:27, in reply to "Some were single payer some were government exchanges like Obamacare that could be purchased by"

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Illegal aliens

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What are the illegal aliens contributing towards that?

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

Certainly at some level. I’m just objecting to calling it free. I’m sure anyone

Posted by Loggins <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Loggins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 17:07:43, in reply to "Aren't the exchanges and Obamacare all government/tax payer subsidized?*"

That purchases it on the exchange doesn’t consider it free

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Illegal aliens

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What are the illegal aliens contributing towards that?

At the very least, the illegals are obtaining it at a discount.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 18:21:39, in reply to "Certainly at some level. I’m just objecting to calling it free. I’m sure anyone"
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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

To clarify, you are claiming undocumented immigrants receive more in aid

Posted by logansqillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=logansqillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 20:12:32, in reply to "At the very least, the illegals are obtaining it at a discount."

Than they pay into the system? And that they do not pay taxes at all?

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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

note: I'm an idiot

That's not the way I read it. Look at it this way, what they pay into the system is irrelevant

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 10:35:52, in reply to "To clarify, you are claiming undocumented immigrants receive more in aid "

so long as they are receiving taxpayer funding. It they 100% financed their own healthcare on their own dime, then "healthcare for illegals" wouldn't be an issue. What is at issue is that taxpayers are covering part or all of the cost for healthcare of people that legally have no right to be in this country.

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Than they pay into the system? And that they do not pay taxes at all?

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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

"without contributing to the base cost of the system" indicates otherwise.

Posted by logansqillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=logansqillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 11:48:06, in reply to "That's not the way I read it. Look at it this way, what they pay into the system is irrelevant"

That indicates the belief that they do not pay taxes.

Hypothetically...
If people are in this country illegally, but still pay more in taxes than they receive in aid, aren't they a net positive on the balance sheet?

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Than they pay into the system? And that they do not pay taxes at all?

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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

note: I'm an idiot

You have to look at net vs gross.

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 12:49:38, in reply to ""without contributing to the base cost of the system" indicates otherwise."

Just saying... oh, they paid $500 in taxes therefore they should be eligible to receive $10,000 in taxpayer funded benefits.

And while there are Americans that have the same issue... we have agreed as a society that this is a benefit of American citizenship. There was never an agreement or an intention that anyone that steps foot into the country gets taxpayer funded subsidies.

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Than they pay into the system? And that they do not pay taxes at all?

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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

there is no gross. the money paid in was never the workers.

Posted by AceFrehley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=AceFrehley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 13:19:25, in reply to "You have to look at net vs gross."

the company paid in, the worker never had the expectation of the benefit. Like I said before it's not like the worker expected the check to say 750. They expected it to say 500 and it did. the rest is just accounting.

You could say the same about citizen workers too.

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 13:30:23, in reply to "there is no gross. the money paid in was never the workers. "

The money DID come from the company recognizing the work that they did, whether the immigrant expected the money or not.

The bottom line is that these workers are contributing to higher taxes and increased Federal debt. I challenge logan to explain

1) Why he believes this is not true
2) If it is true, why he believes that it is a a benefit to the country

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“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

I can't explain how they are contributing to higher taxes or increased federal debt

Posted by logansqillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=logansqillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 15:18:38, in reply to "You could say the same about citizen workers too."

Because I do not believe it to be true. As a whole, undocumented employees contribute more and consume less from a federal aid level. In addition, as a whole, they spend a larger percentage of their wages within their local communities.

My view is that undocumented workers are a net positive on the economy and that they contribute more resources than they consume. So, even if their jobs were replaced by legal citizens, you'd have a net decrease in revenue because the contributions would remain the same, but the consumption would increase.

And I know this is an impossibly complex equation to definitively solve one way, but am open to any new information that would challenge my stance.

note: I'm an idiot

Just starting with your response, I didn't ask you to support a side you didn't believe.

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 4, 2025, 9:20:06, in reply to "I can't explain how they are contributing to higher taxes or increased federal debt"

I asked you why you did NOT believe it. Your response just reiterated that you did not believe it.

As for why I believe they ARE a net drain on society, I will start with this

1) Soft costs. Even with studies on both sides of the question, how are we supposed to believe that anyone can get a true impact analysis when we don't even know who is in the country?

2) The cost of the argument alone and the continued division of the country over this question is substantial and unaccounted for in any math that I've seen regarding this.

3) Please point out the financial errors in this 2024 report published by the House Committee on the Budget finding that Illegal immigrants are a net drain on American society. HCB report

4) Even if you believe that illegal immigrants have some benefit to American society, it's certainly not an overwhelming consensus. And with that being the case, the argument should really come back to.. "are they in this country legally?" and if not, they need to go.

We DO need to streamline our immigration process to allow good, hardworking immigrants to get into the country faster, but if you truly support illegal immigration into this country, we should open the borders completely, and remove social programs, as every country will just put their unhealthy residents on boats and start dropping them off on our shores. (That may be a little exaggerated, but the point remains that unfettered immigration could easily overwhelm damn near every assistance program that exists.)

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“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

you were a longsnapper, iirc...

Posted by Pooter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Pooter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 19:47:53, in reply to "I can't explain how they are contributing to higher taxes or increased federal debt"

your head is still up your ass

Life is too short to waste boners

They kill our public schools*

Posted by AceFrehley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=AceFrehley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 17:51:45, in reply to "I can't explain how they are contributing to higher taxes or increased federal debt"

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You cannot even bring yourself to call them what they undeniably are - illegal aliens.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 16:10:03, in reply to "I can't explain how they are contributing to higher taxes or increased federal debt"
weiner sleeve

Too perfect.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

bingo*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 12:56:17, in reply to "You have to look at net vs gross."
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Than they pay into the system? And that they do not pay taxes at all?

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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

They don't pay taxes. The money isn't theirs. They know they are getting

Posted by AceFrehley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=AceFrehley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 11:59:41, in reply to ""without contributing to the base cost of the system" indicates otherwise."

whatever the check is after withholding. I don't think you understand how anything in this world works.

You're an illegal. You get told you'll get $500 a week to work in the field. At the end of the week you get $500. The check mays say $750 minus this and minus that.

They don't get to participate in this system. They are not legal workers.

Certainly not the sort of taxes used to fund the healthcare system.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 3, 2025, 12:05:07, in reply to "They don't pay taxes. The money isn't theirs. They know they are getting "
weiner sleeve

But this is where we are treated to the inevitable "illegals contribute more they they received" horseshit.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

You can read what I wrote. It's still there.*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 20:33:57, in reply to "To clarify, you are claiming undocumented immigrants receive more in aid "
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Than they pay into the system? And that they do not pay taxes at all?

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The prices on the exchanges are subsidized by tax dollars. It's an American tax payer funded system they are being allowed to participate in, without contributing to the base cost of the system.

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

I was thinking the same thing. If the federal government is involved, so too are tax dollars.*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 2, 2025, 16:10:46, in reply to "Aren't the exchanges and Obamacare all government/tax payer subsidized?*"
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Illegal aliens

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What are the illegal aliens contributing towards that?

Guns. Have them.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.