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    Why is it all still so confusing?

    Posted by Ninja on 17/8/2025, 7:03:54

    This awful system with three at the back has been a factor in our pathetic back-to-back relegations.

    Bloomfield seemingly played four at the back in his success st Colchester and Wigan.

    The system isn’t right. Why is he compromising his own skill set and also playing into the failure of recent seasons?

    Looks like players have been recruited to continue with it too. Absolute madness.

    Recruitment looks pretty poor again. I really thought we’d go for quality and not quantity after the pickle of recent times. Don’t buy this line that we can’t attract anything better - you can if you sell the dream and money does talk too.

    Bloomfield doesn’t look his own man and have his own identity. He needs to, quickly.

      Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

      Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 7:10:25, in reply to "Why is it all still so confusing? "

      With 11 players out yesterday and a weak bench, I think he's playing the best 11 in a formation that suits what's available.

      As I said further down the board - The post match interview was interesting. He mentioned the different challenges in the 4 games so far, the players not being up for yesterdays game and the long season. He also said when the window closes we have to be in a position to meet all those challenges. That indicates he knows what we need and who we don't need.

      He has also said, and we all know, that last seasons shite was not a one window fix. We need to be in touch in January then recruit for the push to May. It may not happen this season, so best to keep the expectation down - hope for the best etc.


      Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

        Posted by HH on 17/8/2025, 8:03:24, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

        This is where the squad management is so weak.

        Out of that 11, my personal opinion is Chong and Mengi should be moved on. We've enough centre backs and Chong contributes nothing. Ever.

        Ade is out all season. We can't include him in the numbers. I would even say Nakamba should be included in that. We can't keep expecting permanent crocks to contribute. Probably chuck Brown in there also.

        Oddofin was signed injured. So no surprises there. And if Wells can only play in every other game, well then questions again need to be asked.

        The others, granted, are unfortunate.

        But we've a lot of historic transfer duds hanging around our necks and weighing us down. And probably taking a hell of a lot of cash out the club on a monthly basis in the process.

        I'm beginning to think it would be better to start talking to some about paying up their contracts. Nakamba has no resale value anyway. So what's the point if he just wastes a squad place all season nursing his knee in between Zimbabwe games?

          Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

          Posted by m on 17/8/2025, 8:10:16, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

          I’d imagine paying up these contracts plus loyalty bonuses will be very costly

            Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

            Posted by HH on 17/8/2025, 8:11:20, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

            That's true.

            But anymore expensive than them sitting their contracts out, taking up a squad place and not contributing?

            Tough decisions need to be taken sometimes.

              Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

              Posted by The Outsider on 17/8/2025, 12:14:46, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "
              VIP

              They don't have to take up a squad place. If it's more expensive to pay them off than keeping them, just keep them but make it clear that they won't be named in the squad. Even if it only costs the same to pay them off, there is the cashflow benefit of spreading the payment.

                Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                Posted by m on 17/8/2025, 8:18:29, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                I do think we are seriously compromised until they are gone

                  Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                  Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 8:20:51, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                  As MB and some of us have said - it's not a one window fix. That applies to unloading as well as getting players in.


                  Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                    Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                    Posted by Well on 17/8/2025, 9:31:16, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                    He has got in 10 players.

                    Don’t buy crap and it won’t be a “few windows” bullshit.

                    I have no idea on what his style of play is or what he is actually trying to achieve.

                    Neither does he.

                      Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                      Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 9:42:37, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                      MB said in his interview yesterday that it's an evolving group which indicates he knows what he wants. He also mentioned that the window hasn't closed yet so expect more players in...hopefully. But he needs to get the best out of every player 100% of the time and that isn't happening at the moment. As m says - it could be several seasons and managers before we hit the spot and get promoted. So low expectations are the order of the day. The football won't spoil the beer, chat and laugh that's for sure.


                      Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                        Posted by Well on 17/8/2025, 10:08:20, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                        He also said “they were more up for it” that’s his fault.


                        Don’t disagree with anything you posted but I expect at least a sign we are moving forward and I’m not seeing it.

                        If you sign a 35yr old striker you will be lucky if he plays 20 games a season. That’s not hindsight.

                      Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                      Posted by m on 17/8/2025, 8:30:28, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                      Personally wouldn’t be surprised if getting out of this division takes a few seasons and a couple of managers myself.

                        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                        Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 8:53:09, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                        Agreed. I'm keeping my expectations low. First thing I do every season is to satisfy myself we aren't going down - hasn't happened for two seasons.


                        Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                        Posted by m on 17/8/2025, 8:30:23, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                        Personally wouldn’t be surprised if getting out of this division takes a few seasons and a couple of managers myself.

                        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                        Posted by m on 17/8/2025, 8:30:16, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                        Personally wouldn’t be surprised if getting out of this division takes a few seasons and a couple of managers myself.

                Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                Posted by Sandgrounder on 17/8/2025, 7:55:57, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                He absolutely didn’t pick the best team from what was available.

                Keeley

                Kodua
                Lonwijk
                Andersen
                Naismith
                Alli

                Saville
                Baptiste

                Nelson
                Clark

                Yates

                Would’ve made much more sense. Admittedly that’s still suboptimal, but it’s better than what MB went with.

                  Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                  Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 8:02:28, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                  Did you post this before the game?

                  Nelson? Hmm. What has he done to deserve a starting place? Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed but he's been anonymous in the games I've seen.


                  Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                    Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                    Posted by Sandgrounder on 17/8/2025, 10:14:21, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                    No I was driving. But I posted it when he did exactly the same thing v Coventry on Tuesday. Lonwijk LWB, Alli RWB and Fanne number 10 didn’t work then. So it probably wasn’t going to work yesterday.

                      Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                      Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 10:40:20, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                      Fair play.


                      Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                  Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                  Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 17/8/2025, 7:52:43, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                  We’re starting as we usually start, slowly. Difference this season is that we have 6 points on the board, and 2 points a game is potential auto level. MB got it wrong yesterday, players in the wrong positions, and I hope he learns. We’re two fullbacks and a creative player away from being competitive, with some outstanding players to come back from injury

                    Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                    Posted by Ninja on 17/8/2025, 7:17:52, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                    ‘With 11 players out yesterday and a weak bench, I think he's playing the best 11 in a formation that suits what's available.’

                    Agreed to an extent, but why on earth are we in that position?

                    I’m not saying it’s an easy job for him to stop the rot and turn us into a decent team again, I just hope he’s going to be a leader like NJ was and grab things by the scruff of the neck. The fear in GS appointing another ‘yes’ man is that he fails to put his stamp on things and gets swayed by others.

                      Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                      Posted by Ostrich spotter on 17/8/2025, 7:41:59, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                      It should not be too difficult to get in sufficient specialist players into the squad to play the Manager's preferred formation. Neither should it be too difficult to identify where there are glaring anomalies in the squad make up

                      Yes, it is only 3 games in and there are still 2 weeks until the window closes, but how many games between now and then? We went down last season because we dillied and dallied, 1 more point would have saved us. Let's hope that points dropped now with our unbalanced squad don't result in missing out on promotion/play offs by 1 point.

                      It is so frustrating

                        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                        Posted by RADSB on 17/8/2025, 7:30:22, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                        It's hard to get over what's happened. I'm not over it at all, it was the worst period of all time for me because it was all self inflicted. But I'm trying to look forward otherwise I get too angry and that doesn't help in any way. I'm not intending this to be a lecture, I'm just saying how I feel.

                        It's the old turning the supertanker analogy - we're turning the wheel but it takes so long to see the results.


                        Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                          Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                          Posted by Ninja on 17/8/2025, 7:56:50, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                          Very reasoned tbf!

                          Agree about not looking back, not healthy.

                      Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                      Posted by Ninja on 17/8/2025, 7:04:16, in reply to "Why is it all still so confusing? "

                      Wycombe!

                        Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                        Posted by J in C on 17/8/2025, 7:06:40, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "
                        Sarah

                        Yet the drfence has jade recent praise for good reason


                        Legend

                          Re: Why is it all still so confusing?

                          Posted by Ninja on 17/8/2025, 7:14:17, in reply to "Re: Why is it all still so confusing? "

                          True.

                          But we have looked poor attacking with it. Our best performance was with four at the back in the second half v Peterborough.

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