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Posted by Pineda Pete <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Pineda+Pete' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:34 pm

Never in a million years a left back. KDH played quite a few times for Leicester either as a left back or left wing back.McNeil could also have played wing back. As soon as I saw the team I feared the worse and effin’ hell I was right.

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Posted by Spart <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Spart' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 11:14 am, in reply to "Garner"

He was far from the biggest problem last night. The midfield was all over the place, and seemed to be in two distinct units, Tim and Gana sitting way too deep and getting in everyone else's way and KDH sitting way too high and trying to support Beto whilst having zero effect in midfield.

I thought Garner was OK in a player asked to play way out of position with everything else around him completely disfunctional kind of way.

Micky Kegger had an OK game by his standards too.

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Posted by No_One_Ever_Replies <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=No_One_Ever_Replies' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 10:50 am, in reply to "Garner"

Is that who played left back?

Sake. I missed the game and then saw the lineup but couldn’t work it out.

Sounds like the players couldn’t either.

It’s top quality stuff this!

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Posted by SnafflesBlue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=SnafflesBlue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 8:11 am, in reply to "Garner"

If you're going to play Garner there, you have to a) protect him a bit and b) redivert the attacks away from him.

He got decent protection, but the amount of times we tried to start attacks down that side was just utterly baffling. He had one option, bang it up the pitch, usually directly to a Leeds player. He was never going to make yards and their press meant anything else was risky.

The truth is that we're working with 80% the same personnel as last season, when we weren't very good either. We can sign average players quickly or sign good players slowly - they tend to know they're good and aren't desperate to play in a team that doesn't have the ball for 70% of games. None of this should be news to people.

As for Moyes, again I am not sure what anyone expected. He's not going to change now. Maybe when he's been dumped around Christmas, we'll try and get Silva back from Fulham, seeing as hiring managers from the past who won fuck all seem to get people excited. At least Silva didn't string us along by fucking about with contracts, and then try and sign our best players for 45p.

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Posted by Tonytaxi1970 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Tonytaxi1970' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 10:49 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

We should have gone 3-5-2 with the players available.

O'Brien, Tarkowski and Keane the 3 centre backs.
KD Hall left wing back, Garner right wing back, Gueye, Iroegbunam holding, McNeil in the 10 first half, Grealish in the 10 second half (if both are lacking full fitness), Beto or Barry and N'Diaye up front.

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Posted by Pineda Pete <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Pineda+Pete' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 1:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Garner"

A similar shout to what I made yesterday Tony.

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I prefer that formation. 352 easily becomes 532 when under the cosh, plus you have 2 up front.

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Posted by gaizka6 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=gaizka6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 11:28 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

I think it will have to be 352 against Brighton, possibly even with Mykolenko available.

Pickford

Obrien
Tarkowski
Keane

McNeil / Mykolenko / Mystery Guest
Garner

Gana Gueye
KDH
That bizarre Iroebugnam chap, whatever he’s supposed to be

Ndiaye
Beto

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Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 11:13 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

Genuinely thought it would be 3/5/2 but couldn’t really see who was on the left. When Sky said it was garner I actually laughed at how ridiculous it sounded

CHEER UP, PLUMS

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Posted by Blueskiesahead <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Blueskiesahead' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 8:13 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

Leeds just left him free knowing we’d be daft enough to pass to him / incapable of doing anything else with the ball.

'The time I've spent - but never feels wasted. Always something to make me arf'

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Posted by ste <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=ste' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 8:15 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

They let Gueye have the ball as well. Meant they could strangle Ndiaye

CHEER UP, PLUMS

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Outsmarted by Daniel Farke

'The time I've spent - but never feels wasted. Always something to make me arf'

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Posted by joe_euro <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=joe_euro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 8:22 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

Yeah that's an underrated worry, was made up he signed a new deal but was assuming that was a 'play maybe 20 games, around for the experience and great to bring on after 70 mins at times' move not 'well he's playing every minute week in week out' option.

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Posted by Est-1878 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Est-1878' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:50 pm, in reply to "Garner"

It’s not Dirty Gerty at number 30
Just a Regal lady

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NoOi0aSFc4&list=RD7NoOi0aSFc4&start_radio=1

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Posted by GG <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=GG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:46 pm, in reply to "Garner"

Thank you Nostradamos

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Posted by Boom94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Boom94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Garner"

🤣🤣

Not my words Carol- The words of Top Gear Magazine!!

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Posted by Jimmys_Arch <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Jimmys_Arch' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:43 pm, in reply to "Garner"

Our midfield never seemed to cotton on to the fact we had a right footed midfielder playing at left back..... constantly putting him under pressure by going backwards all the time and giving him the ball in daft situations.

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Posted by Moodyblue <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Moodyblue' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:41 pm, in reply to "Garner"

In fairness to Garner, despite playing out of position he completely nullified James as an attacking threat. The issue was more that he has to stop and play inside on his right foot and leaves us looking unbalanced. You're right Pete, he's not a LB, but he was still amongst our better players tonight (not too hard) and largely did his job.

KDH was pretty disappointing for me. Slow at times to react and see things. As poor as Beto was, our creative players never looked like playing him in behind.

I'd have played McNeil tonight, and put Garner as deep CM, behind Gana. Tim O isn't ready for a starting place yet imo. Team balance would have looked far better, just not quite so sure how McNeil would have coped with Dan James half as well as Garner did.

UTFT
FTRS
Stop bloody raining.

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Posted by joemul <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=joemul' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Garner"

Defensively he did fine. Nonexistent as an attacking outlet, which was disappointing.

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That’s summed up our left back situation since Digne got shipped.

'The time I've spent - but never feels wasted. Always something to make me arf'

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Posted by Yogi_Clementine <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Yogi_Clementine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Garner"

Garner did pretty well tonight, as you said he was there to deal with Dan James not fly up and down the flanks
Even contemplating O’Neil being remotely capable of that is frightening

Formerly yogiclementine

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Posted by Banjo12 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=Banjo12' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 19, 2025, 10:54 am, in reply to "Re: Garner"

who?

Lovely Stuff

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Posted by drexxxler <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=drexxxler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Garner"

Hall looked like he wanted to wait till the ball came to him it was a completely different approach than what he normally shows ; the whole thing smacks of zero preparation and making up systems on the hoof ; really unprofessional smell in the air

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Posted by PsychoPat10 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/everton-forum/info/user=PsychoPat10' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 18, 2025, 11:35 pm, in reply to "Garner"

I wonder if McNeills days are numbered. As you say surely a better fit at LB and then does not even come on later in the game

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Him not coming on was weird, definitely.

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Yes I wouldn’t be surprised if he went back to Burnley.

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We do need to start moving 1-2 on if we get a few more in

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