So David Koresh points out that “Above Any Prophets Testimony, we have to take the Testimony of the BIBLE.” AND we have DAVID KORESH also citing that “the 144,000” as regarding having “Brother Houteff’s Message, and Brother Roden’s Message” that they Simply DO NOT HAVE EITHER!
Hmmm…seems like a conundrum. Especially if given to this idea of PRECEPT upon PRECEPT and likewise also Believing in Davids BEING THE ANNOINTED OF GOD!”
And then, David notes of those people who put stock in the LAURELS of WORLDLY EDUCATION, even WORLDLY BIBLE EDUCATION, that when the World will pay for you to go learn their views on the Bible, then the Church and The World are the SAME!
SO, what of this conundrum? What does the BIBLE say in such matters? Hold on, save that answer, we are not through yet. I will tell you the ANSWER rests in that sermon which begins with that first link in this reply. I will also point you to Ecclesiastes chapter 12.
The Thing about Tares and WHEAT, is you cannot always tell one from the other. They have to grow side by side to reveal what they truly are at maturity.
Sometimes those who seem to embrace the truth, are in fact Tares. They seem to be “FOR THE THE TRUTH” but are in TRUTH LEGAL LIBRARIANS, who come in by flatteries, they pretend to embrace the truth that is presented only to have opportunity to at a later point cast it to the ground.
Late last May or early June, at the New Chapel at Mt. Carmel here in Waco, I presented a Sabbath Study. I am sure Mr. Pace was certain I would quote from material he was more familiar with than I, such as the writings of Ellen White, or Victor Houteff. Now I have studied those writings, but I have not had the years of study in them that he has, and was not given in the timeframe to readily quote the material. The Work I chose to study, was rather, THE BIBLE itself. Mr. Pace was very taken aback when The L-RD Had me present a strong truth from Genesis he had never seen before. I had told him of it prior, but like the Deacon from the NC SDA church, he had been humoring me prior. When I asked him in front of all present and as well all present “After THE LORD GOD In Genesis chapter 2 said “It is not good that Man Should be Alone, I will make a Help Meet For Him”…what did he do next WHAT DID HE CREATE!” Mr. Pace was the first to offer answer “EVE.” Others chimed in next. Then Cited, “Well, you have given the answer that most everyone else gives, and like everyone else, YOU ARE WRONG! The Next thing the LORD GOD created was not the WOMAN, but ALL THE ANIMALS, including “EVERY FOWL OF THE AIR”. I had been to several studies at the chapel prior. I sat through a few 5 hour sessions in which most sat and listened. A couple times when my wife and son attended, we had to leave after about 3 hours, because of a medical condition my son suffers. I did not feel bad about leaving early for such reason, though there was a couple occasions I left for other reasons. I had in those weeks leading up to that Sabbath Study The LORD worked in Mr. Pace’s heart to let me give, seen his sons refuse to attend at all on a couple occasion, on others his wife and youngest son get up and leave after the first hour or second hour. I had seen a few heads nod. But when I announced they had all gotten the answer wrong, they perked up, and when I stated the answer that “NEXT THE LORD GOD CREATED ALL THE ANIMALS and not just some, not few, not MANY…ALL THE WINGED FOWL OF THE AIR!!” I seen something I had not seen prior, everyone started reaching for their bibles and thumbing through them to see for themselves, to see if I were telling them the truth or not. You see, you would have to go read the study on this board “THE FOUNDATION: WHO CAN DECLARE THE BEGINNING FROM THE END” to understand What was taught of Genesis Chapter one leading up to that point! Mr Pace, like that Baptist Preacher years ago, who suddenly found himself in unfamiliar waters with the very passage of Scripture he has been prophesying from, And Falsely so for some time now to lay claim to a Role not rightfully his own, and to lay hold of Property that belongs to the SURVIVING STUDENTS OF DAVID KORESH for use in his own agenda…he was taken aback at having given the incorrect answer to a truth hidden in plain sight in Genesis. In the timeframe, while it was Sabbath, he had for some time converted those under his dominion on the Mt. Carmel property to Sunday keeping.
I watched some smile at me, as Mr. Pace after challenging me with doctrine and having been met with the reply…”Look, I am not making this up, I AM READING WHAT IS IN THE BOOK! Its RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE!” and then Those who smiled as Mr. Pace Stormed at the back door, yelling, protesting, but all the while being unable to explain what was just shown him as untruth, and all the while being unable to deny what was just presented. I have a feeling that was pretty much a first for Mr. Pace in quite some time. He came back in to the study, and in such, challenged the King James Bible calling it flawed and polluted. He cited he wanted to see it in the Hebrew, but when I told him I had studied the Hebrew, he further Specified, I Don’t trust the mainstream Hebrew Translations, I want to see it in the YOUNGS LITERAL TRANSLATION OF THE HEBREW!” He cited It was the only version he believed was TRULY “INSPIRED” by God. So I conceded if he would allow me to give another further study on the matter the following week, we would address such. He said he would. The Next week, his word was made lie as he took over and refused to let me continue the study. My Family sat and listened until he said some outrageous things about 2 and half hours in, and I rose and told my family to follow. IN such he tried to verbally assault me, which he had passive aggressively done many times in the 2 and half hours leading up. And I told him I would not return unless he honored his word, to allow a further study from the Hebrew, from the YOUNGS LITERAL TRANSLATION as he requested. I told him I had studied the matter, asked if he did the same. He hesitated, then finally said “Yes.” But I was convinced he was not being forthright, or he found the same I had found in the Youngs Literal Translation, and did not know how to explain the matter away.
The following week, I resumed the Study, and Mr. Pace attempted to promote the idea that God in Genesis 2, created a ZOO, and the word “EVERY” in ENGLISH, and in THE HEBREW, and in, “YOUNGS LITERAL HEBREW TRANSLATION” all of sudden did not mean “EVERY” At all. By this time the Lord had given me to address the Testimony of the PLANT LIFE in Genesis one and Genesis two to the fact of Multiple Creations. But Mr. Pace would not hear the matter and obstinately got in my face several times, contrary to my behavior when listening to his material in the weeks leading up. I had told him up front I wanted to use the chapel for Sabbath Studies, Not as he observed Sabbath but on Saturdays, and that in exchange I would attend his Sunday Studies, but not acknowledge Sunday as the Sabbath, nor give promise to endorse his views, only lend equal time for equal time, and give consideration, to sit silently, asking questions only when the same were not controversial. And any controversial questions I would reserve to ask him in private after his speeches. I asked for the same consideration, he agreed, but never gave it. Not even on day one. So after Hearing what God had shown me from Youngs Literal Translation, and my not buying into his now changing up again to cite the YOUNGS HEBREW TRANSLATION which he formerly endorsed as “INPIRED”…all of a sudden like the other versions whose language indicated, not some, not few, not many, but “EVERY WINGED FOWL” in Genesis chapter one were CREATED prior to BOTH HUMANS of the 7 day Account, while “EVERY” not some, not few, not many, but “EVERY FOWL OF THE AIR” were created “AFTER” the male human in the Creation account of “Adam.”
Now we have seen 3 groups so far who reject the truth, the indifference of the “LATEST AND GREATEST” group, the Obstinence of the “OLDEST AND BOLDEST GROUP” and the subterfuge of the “LEGAL LIBRARIANS.” All have one commonality, they reject NEW TRUTH WHEN IT IS PRESENTED TO THEM! We are going to look at a 4th group we have mentioned as well, those who are “FOR IT!” In such we will see it is not “NEW TRUTH” they are actually for, rather it is simply “THE TRUTH”.
When Mr. Pace seen The Lord had prepared me to address matters of the New Truth presented him in the HEBREW as well, his next course of distracting away from the truth, was to challenge me to see if I had read every single work by Ellen White, Victor Houteff, Benjamin Roden.
I candidly confessed I had studied those works, but I had not read them all. To which he very much identified himself as the “LEGAL LIBRARIAN.” “Well, I have read all those works, we have read them, who are you to come in here and tell us anything if you have not? Why should we listen to you tell us ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE, when you HAVE NOT READ ALL THESE OTHER WORKS?”
My reply, “well, I have not read all the works of Sister White, but I Know The actual AUTHOR who inspired Sister White to write those things, and I know Sister White warned us that Sunday Keeping was the Mark of the Beast.” This only led Mr. Pace to yet another tirade, to which I told those listening, that Matters had reached the point where they could not productively go forward and I closed the Study.
As we transition to see those who by FAITH receive TRUTH, we sum up the contrast betweenst those faithful and those who reject truth. The line between the Indifferent “Latest and Greatest” and the Obstinate “Oldest and Boldest” to contrast to the position of the faithful is very much clear.
BUT the line is often obscure between the Young Faithful who are FOR TRUTH, when confronted with The LEGAL LIBRARIAN. You see there is a difference in KNOWLEDGE and TRUTH. TRUTH edifies in righteousness. KNOWLEDGE, Puffeth up.
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