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    Re: Democrip debate Archived Message

    Posted by machine_easy2 on October 15, 2015, 4:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Democrip debate"

    So some kids are not destined to go to college so let's deny it to anyone who has potential but not the economic means to go.

    If you have the "potential" to go to college, yet lack the funding, there are still great programs in this area to help. LaunchCode for example. Most people they place are making $60k+ a year, within a year of being placed in a paid apprenticeship. The overwhelming majority, get to stay on the job permanently. Until recently they received very little cash more any government entities. The only catch is, you don't really have a formal classroom or teacher, you have to do the work it takes to learn the skills they are looking for pretty much by your self. If you're smart enough for college, you should be smart enough to make it through them. Everything you need to learn is taught online, for free.

    Also forget entirely, that with prudence, just about anyone (smart enough) can get through college with just a reasonable amount of student loans. Regardless of their current ability to pay. That, and the poorer you are, THE MORE GRANT MONEY YOU GET. Someone "living in poverty" can already go to school for damn near free.

    There is this idea in economics: Their are 4 ways something can be paid for.

    1.) You pay for something for your self with your earnings. In this case, you pay much attention quality, and much attention to cost.

    2.) You pay for something for someone else, with your earnings. In this case, you care little about quality, and very much about cost.

    3.) You get something for yourself, using someone else's money. In this case you care only about quality, and little about cost.

    4.) You get for something for someone else, using other peoples money. In this case you care little about quality, or cost.

    Free college would certainly fall into category 4. Perhaps the worst way for money and goods to be exchanged. You WILL wind up with poor(er) quality public colleges, that cost more than private institutions today. There is also the fact that people tend to appreciate things they earned themselves. Believe it or not, people also strongly tend to use something they sacrificed to have, over something they got for free. It's a bad idea on the grounds that kids will graduate college, only to take a career they didn't college for.

    In short, the good your idea could do for a FEW, isn't worth the harm it WILL do to the majority.

    I'll tell you something my Mom taught me: Life isn't always fair. I go for the good of the majority, cause in 20 years, should college become free, kids will be graduating from them with less knowledge than Highshoolers graduate with today.


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