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    Re: When Your Kids Get Terrible Grades: 1960 Vs 2010 Archived Message

    Posted by 3Dee on February 12, 2011, 8:25 am, in reply to "Re: When Your Kids Get Terrible Grades: 1960 Vs 2010"

    Teachers cannot control who sits in front of them.

    The kids that fill the classroom came from somewhere.

    Now was it a place that instilled the values of respect and responsibility?

    Or was it a place that put them on a pedestal that protected them from responsibility and was soft on respect?

    How can a teacher expect to be good if there is no cooperation?

    I know there are bad teachers out there --- but the cartoon is damn accurate in my view.

    Teachers just can't be teachers -- they have to almost fill in where the parents left off.

    Then by high school - teachers can't be in the business of filling in for mom and dad, so remedial classes and long study halls it is.

    I can't believe GCHS got so bad in 15 years. It was an excellent school and academically challenging when I attended there.

    And Kudos to Metal. He didn't like the place - so instead of getting on and Gossipping how bad it is -- he took the bull by the horn and his daughter did well.

    I still think Norad's cartoon holds true.

    If we had that support for teachers and if we believed that if a student's poor performance or poor behavior actually reflected badly on the family, I think the teachers would have rooms they would be able to teach in.

    Stop supporting the teachers and it all goes downhill.

    Even good teachers turn bad - because of burnout and the feeling that they spend more time playing disciplinarian.

    It's not like I am convinced that no teacher is bad. I know there are people out there in our schools just leeching until their retirement date comes. They should not be there, I know that.

    Yes, the best teachers can rise above all of it and keep bad behavior at a minimum.

    But there seemed to me a lot of teachers in the middle. They were the ones who still loved their subject - but were not the ones who always connected well or made it exciting. They presented things well and were willing to help and cared - but they didn't have exceptional ability to inspire the student. That's the characteristic of most of my teachers in Granite and in higher education as well. They aren't leeches sucking a salary by any means, but their classroom is not exactly a learning Disneyland either.


    I think it's these teachers I worry about. They are more than adequate to be teachers but they might at times get boring. They may at times be prone to snapping. Some of these teachers, still in the decent teacher category are prone to bullying as well.


    Yes - respect makes a difference..and parents -- spare the rod -- and you not only spoil the child -- but you ruin the entire classroom as well.

    GOOD CARTOON NORAD!!! It is DAMN Accurate!

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