Re: the sad impending reality of american education Archived Message
Posted by Liberal on March 2, 2011, 11:34 pm, in reply to "the sad impending reality of american education "
some of us get it - and some never will. without tenure - the PhD teacher who is an expert educator who deserves a 6-figure income and gets a 70k a year salary (depending on the district; maybe more maybe less) will lose their job to pay a young teacher 30k a year. if we paid teachers well then that whole problem would go away and thus the whole debate over tenure would go with it. but we do not pay teachers well... 50k a year salary is for a teacher who has a masters degree (6+ years of college) - works for a year in an unpaid apprenticeship - and has about 5-10 years under their belt. working for a year without pay - and accruing 6+ years of debt is not compensated very well by a 50k a year salary. i am saying - if we paid teachers...120,000$ salary - we could attract that lawyer to come teach about political science and government - we can have doctors teaching anatomy - biologists teaching biology. then - there would be no question of the teacher's abilities. we would be where we are now - american culture lacks appreciation for education and THAT starts and ends at home. ... as for this we spend the most arguement...it is not true and you have yet to provide any source proving that point... "Among the OECD countries reporting data in 2006, the countries that spent the highest percentage of their GDP on total education expenditures were Iceland (8.0 percent), the United States (7.4 percent) Denmark (7.3 percent), and Korea (7.3 percent)." "Compared with the percentage of GDP that the United States spent on elementary and secondary education, 8 countries spent a higher percentage, 19 countries spent a lower percentage, and 1 country spent the same percentage. Iceland spent the highest percentage (5.3 percent) of its GDP on elementary and secondary education. At the postsecondary level, the United States spent 2.9 percent of its GDP on education; this percentage was higher than the OECD average of 1.4 percent of GDP and higher than the percentage of GDP spent by any other OECD country reporting data." http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2010/section4/indicator38.asp some nice charts and graphs that highlight this info well... here is the .pdf file - it is .gov site and reliable information - it is 2006 but is the most recent reliable one i could find via free sources.
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- the sad impending reality of american education - Liberal March 2, 2011, 8:19 am
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- Re: the sad impending reality of american education - Liberal March 2, 2011, 11:34 pm
- Re: the sad impending reality of american education - bob March 3, 2011, 11:37 pm
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