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Renault Traffic 1.9 DCi 2003 - Non start #

Posted by Dominic Casey on July 27, 2011, 5:00 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2003
Engine Size and Code *: 1.9 dci 80
( Optional ) Scanner Used: Snapon Solus

Hi All

I have a real ball braker here. The above vehicle was towed in last week.

The customer started it without a problem one morning and drove for about 20 mls, stopped for about an hour and when he went to start it again "Nothing" It turned over fine but wouldn't start. I got the usual Renault glow plug code and an intermittent cam sensor fault. I replaced both cam and crank seensor and still nothing.

Replaced high pressure pump as i thought fuel pressure was a bit on the low side (i had one anyway that i knew was good) and when i was down that far i replaced the timing belt water pump ect as it was due one anyway, but still no start. I had other diagnostic software on it and everything shows up fine, in other words it should start but won't. If i spray it with easy start it will run but not without it. There is also fresh fuel in the tank.

Am I missing something here ? I'm ready to slit my wrist so any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Dominic

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Ray Mahon <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1915' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 6:07 pm, in reply to "Renault Traffic"
Ray Mahon

What fuel pressure and rpm do you have in live data on cranking?

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Mark carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 6:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Mark Carter

Hi Dominic,

I will happily try to help you but first can you expand on your comment;

>>>I had other diagnostic software on it and everything shows up fine<<<

What test have been carried out and what where the results?

Regards Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Tony Ludford <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5539' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 7:10 pm, in reply to "Renault Traffic"
Tony Ludford

Did you take the cam pulley off? These spin on the cam, breaking the keyway off.

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Dominic Casey <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3313' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 7:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Dominic Casey

Hi Ray ! Thanks for the reply.On cranking the fuel pressure reads between 320-350 bar and the rpm is between 220-265

Dominic

Re: Renault Traffic

Hi Mark I just had another scanner on it and the readings were pretty much as the solus.Fuel pressure 320-350 bar/rpm 220-265 and injector pulse from ecu looks to be normal also.

Dominic

Re: Renault Traffic

Hi Tony No I didn't take off the cam pully but thats useful to know for future reference thanks

Dominic

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Carl ford <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1822' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 8:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Carl Ford

Are the injectors being triggered?

Regard
Carl

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by george ambelas <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3245' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 8:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
George Ambelas

does it start with a snif? did you check the injectors?

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by phil kingdon <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1433' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 27, 2011, 10:13 pm, in reply to "Renault Traffic"
Phil Kingdon

Dont do it Dom!
Cam sensor fault logged?
Do you have a scope, is this sensor giving a signal, I know you have renewed it but is this a wireing issue?
Many engines rely on cam signal for sucssesful start.
Phrom fill.

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Dominic Casey <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3313' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 28, 2011, 8:25 am, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Dominic Casey

Hi Guys thanks for all your replys.I dont have a scope(looking to buy one one at the moment)The injectors are getting a trigger but I didn't physically take them out and test them,is it possible they can be perfect one minute and not the next ? It will run on a "sniff" but as soon as i take it away it stops,I dont't want to try it for too long for obvious reasons.

Dominic

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Mark Carter on July 28, 2011, 9:26 am, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Message modified by board administrator July 29, 2011, 1:30 pm

Hi dominic,

What system is this running?

regards Mark

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Dominic Casey <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3313' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 28, 2011, 9:39 am, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Dominic Casey

Hi Mark its a bosch system.

Dominic.

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Mark Carter on July 28, 2011, 4:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Message modified by board administrator July 29, 2011, 1:30 pm

CP1 or CP3 (post a photo if poss)

If you can tell me which one I should be able to talk you through a test plan.

regards Mark

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Dominic Casey <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3313' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 28, 2011, 4:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Dominic Casey

Hi Mark How would I tell which it is ? Is there a number or something I could look for ?

Dominic

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by Mark Carter on July 28, 2011, 11:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Message modified by board administrator July 29, 2011, 1:31 pm

PM me a phone number.

Re: Renault Traffic

Posted by phil kingdon <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1433' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2011, 7:05 am, in reply to "Re: Renault Traffic"
Phil Kingdon

Fix this yet?

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