Hi Keith

I have done quite a few courses, but I have found they usually give you a general insight into how systems work, but learning in a classroom (or a set of CD's) is miles away from every day problems that come through your door, under pressure to find the fault, lack of good info, scanners that don't give enough live data, no easy access to components, injectors that don't come out, customer breathing down your neck and worried about the cost etc etc. The classroom will never reflect the real world, the CD's and classroom always have a shiny 3 year old Passat, not a crappy 10 year old non starting Peugeot HDi to demo on

Just have a look at some of the .pdf files in the link below, how is it possible for technicians to take in ALL these different systems and be expected to know how to repair or diagnose them first time and these are just Delphi systems

http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/powertrain/diesel/

That's why I think we need to cut some members a bit of slack, even I struggle with diesel systems, and probably to old to learn most of the new stuff coming along and retain it . I would like to think that members like yourself can be mentors rather than put downers

I am just wondering how far the designers can push
engine technology before you have to have a degree from NASA to fix them

Peter