Rossendaleblue, I don't know how old you actually are but I assumed you were/are old enough to remember the big Joe days of playing wingers? real wingers. The lad from Stoke and Mr Drummond are as far away from a proper winger as you can get. Goodness gracious they are in my opinion modern midfielders who occasionally play/stray towards the wings, Drummond has regularly played midfield defence for sure but not so much on the wing.as for a No 9or 10 neither are of course Cav is certainly a 10 and Sutton I would guess could play 9 or 10 given the chance. That's how I see it, you obviously see it differently. COYB