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    Prison pressures

    Posted by CubaUser icon on 5/8/2026, 12:22:24

    Why do we still have some many “baddies”???

    Why can’t people just behave, be nice to each other and stay in the boundaries of our legal system.

    34% of prisoners are in for violence, 22% for sexual related crimes and 13% for drugs.

    72% of offenders are White British

    Surely we must better understand these crimes figures so people who absolutely should be held for longest are not released due to the lack of space caused by the Tories.

    Why do people offend??


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      Re: Prison pressures

      Posted by HoofitUser icon on 5/8/2026, 21:08:32, in reply to "Prison pressures"

      72% are white British, in a predominantly white British population, are we supposed to be surprised?

      If you looked at per capita of the population / ethnic origin, that would tell a different story.

        Re: Prison pressures

        Posted by bbbUser icon on 6/8/2026, 00:02:32, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"
        WUM 2

        The bloke won't reply to you mate.
        He mentioned it because it suits his narrative.
        Asks why people offend yet is oblivious to his (granted, small part) in stirring up hate with his continued blinkered one sided posts on the internet.
        He's a fuckin loon ball.

        Re: Prison pressures

        Posted by bbbUser icon on 5/8/2026, 12:36:05, in reply to "Prison pressures"
        WUM 2

        I get why you posted most of the figures but why the white British comment?
        What difference does their nationality make?

        As for 'why do people offend'. That's a very simplistic question.

        Every single person currently in prison will have their own individual reason.

          Re: Prison pressures

          Posted by Poster from the pastUser icon on 5/8/2026, 13:18:16, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

          There's about 10k foreign prisoners in UK prisons, which if they weren't here would negate the need for so many early releases which is undermining the rule of law in the UK and is massively distressing for their victims too. But obviously that will upset some on here so to balance it out foreign prisoners make up about 12% of the prison population whereas foreigners in UK overall are about 19% of the UK population. Therefore foreigners are actually under represented in prison.

          There. Hopefully I have now managed to upset EVERYONE.


          outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.

            Re: Prison pressures

            Posted by SurreyHatterUser icon on 5/8/2026, 22:09:12, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

            Are you classing 2nd and 3rd generation black and Asian as “british”?

              Re: Prison pressures

              Posted by Poster from the pastUser icon on 5/8/2026, 23:30:56, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

              I'm just parroting a couple of quick Google searches mate. Basically I asked what percentage of prisoners in UK are foreign and what percentage of UK population is foreign and then I shared the percentages on here. Google didn't go into any detail more than what I have repeated above so I don't know in answer to your question. Personally I don't give a fuck what colour someone is, I only care what they think is right and wrong and how they behave. I think people are capable of behaving in any possible way so I try to never write a person off, but I will criticise anybody's behaviour if I think they behaving badly. Somebody recently implied on here that I am full of hate for Muslims for example. I'm not, I like all people. But I might not like specific behaviours of people. It's not that complicated to understand but I am pretty sure some people will still not be able to understand that. My basic guiding principle in life is based on Buddhism and a very specific strand of Buddhism at that, which most people are unaware of. It's based on the Lotus Sutra which teaches that everyone has the same potential to be in the highest possible life state at any given moment. It's quite difficult to stick to with some people because if their behaviour is completely abhorrent the temptation exists to write that person off permanently. In Buddhism that is considered a grave mistake and guaranteed to lead you to suffer as a result. But despite knowing that I struggle with certain peoples behaviours. Ultimately I do trust the Buddhist teaching though. Sorry, bit of a long answer 🤣


              outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.

              Re: Prison pressures

              Posted by MGUser icon on 5/8/2026, 14:12:28, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

              I'm definitely upset.

              Not sure why.

              But, good job anyway.

            Re: Prison pressures

            Posted by Brko's BicycleUser icon on 5/8/2026, 12:33:45, in reply to "Prison pressures"

            From what I understand, crime levels are relatively low by historic standards and the reason for the overcrowding crisis is because there has been political pressure for judges to give more and longer prison sentences - e.g. sentences for robbery in 2023 were 13 months longer on average than in 2012. So there's not more crime, just the same number of criminals (or lower) getting banged up for longer.

            That said, you're right of course that the levels of violence in society remain unacceptable and hard to comprehend. I was in A&E the other week - obviously nobody is having their best day but the amount of men looking like they were about to kick off was really striking. Just chill out lads alright?

              Re: Prison pressures

              Posted by Kurious OranjUser icon on 5/8/2026, 13:11:46, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

              No godleness anymore.

              Selfish society influenced by utter gobshites on social media.

                Re: Prison pressures

                Posted by CubaUser icon on 5/8/2026, 12:46:12, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                Absolutely this.

                The levels of aggression seen continues to shock me every day, the way some people treat their supposed loved ones, the way some people drive etc etc

                Fix the root causes for this and we would have much better green and pleasant and reduce the reasons for prison overcrowding.

                One fix would be to cancel Eastenders.


                Winning is everything - more than you have

                  Re: Prison pressures

                  Posted by TheDunstableWindsockUser icon on 5/8/2026, 17:08:56, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                  I agree. But what do you think the root cause is? Far from me to agree with anything bbb says but he is right that everyone has their own reasons why they commit crime. That said, I still think it xones down to very few reasons in the end such as inequality/poverty, lack of hope, feeling of inadequacy/undervalued. These are broad terms deliberately.

                    Re: Prison pressures

                    Posted by Nearly a GeniusUser icon on 5/8/2026, 17:01:29, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"
                    Legend of Outlaws

                    Why just Eastenders? All soaps have similar storylines.

                      Re: Prison pressures

                      Posted by alrightchummyUser icon on 5/8/2026, 20:58:31, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"


                      It surprises me anyone still watches the soaps. All they promote is negativity. Even my once hardened soap fan of a mrs stopped watching them years ago!
                      Ban them all.

                      Re: Prison pressures

                      Posted by FarhatUser icon on 5/8/2026, 15:31:11, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                      I think moving everybody who lives near an airport or under a flightpath should be re-housed.

                        Re: Prison pressures

                        Posted by WiltUser icon on 5/8/2026, 16:41:33, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                        😂You are on good form today.

                        Re: Prison pressures

                        Posted by bbbUser icon on 5/8/2026, 13:27:00, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"
                        WUM 2

                        Cancel Eastenders? 🤣🤣

                        You know its not real don't you mate?

                        Besides, what's Dot Cotton ever done wrong to you?

                          Re: Prison pressures

                          Posted by Nearly a GeniusUser icon on 5/8/2026, 14:46:00, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"
                          Legend of Outlaws

                          Blimey!
                          I'm agreeing with you!😮

                            Re: Prison pressures

                            Posted by KbotUser icon on 5/8/2026, 13:30:57, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                            Don’t even get me started on Midsummer!

                              Re: Prison pressures

                              Posted by Poster from the pastUser icon on 5/8/2026, 13:31:31, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                              Heartbeat also has a lot to answer for


                              outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.

                            Re: Prison pressures

                            Posted by Poster from the pastUser icon on 5/8/2026, 13:20:25, in reply to "Re: Prison pressures"

                            They are stuck in the 6 lower worlds (life states) because these life states are effortless and people who don't know about the concept of the 10 worlds basically don't understand how to climb out of them. I can go into further detail if you like.


                            outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.

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