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OBR report

Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 14:36:40

Labour's first two Budgets increased taxes on British workers by £36 billion and £26 billion respectively, pushing the tax burden to an historic high of 38.3% of GDP

- The OBR forecasts 240,000 more people will be unemployed in 2026 than it previously projected - it said this is largely attributable to Labour's employment policies

- The UK unemployment rate was 4.9% as of early 2026, up from 4.6% a year earlier, an increase of 124,000

- Total UK welfare spending this year is estimated at £333.7 billion - up from £315 billion

- The UK is spending £301 million per day just to service its debt interest on Labour borrowing

- Labour promised 1.5 million new homes this parliament. Between 9 July 2024 and 15 March 2026, it had build just 342,100, way off target

- More than 1 million young people aged 16-24 were not in education, employment or training in the first quarter of this year - up 89,000

- The NHS waiting list stands at 7.22 million cases

- When Labour took office in July 2024, just 58.8% of patients were treated within 18 weeks. The target is 92%. By March 2026 it had only reached 65.3%

- Around 100,000 patients are waiting over a year for NHS treatment

- Over the past year, approximately 1.56 million people waited more than 4 hours in A&E - a huge breach of the target

- The outstanding caseload in the Crown Court stands at around 80,200 - the highest level recorded since 2016 and more than double the pre-Covid caseload

- A quarter of all Crown Court cases have been open for more than a year

- There are currently 14,749 sexual offences cases waiting to go to the Crown Court - a 75% increase

- There were approximately 530,640 shoplifting offences recorded in England and Wales over the past year - the highest in the entire time series on record

- There were 41,000 small boat arrivals in 2025

- Of all people who have arrived by small boat since 2018, only around 7,500 (4%) had been returned from the UK by the end of 2025

- Last year the Home Office spent £4 billion on asylum support. This includes £2.1 billion on hotel accommodation alone - around £6 million per day

Yeah but Farage.

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Posted by Sheff <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Sheff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 9/7/2026, 0:10:41, in reply to "OBR report"

They only way these points could be considered relevant is for the % change from the July 2024 figures.

Farige Bought For £5m

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Posted by Lord Fungusbottom <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Lord+Fungusbottom' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 21:13:47, in reply to "OBR report"

So… Brexit didn’t work?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 21:18:33, in reply to "Re: OBR report"
Legend of Outlaws

spot on

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Posted by joey diconio <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=joey+diconio' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 17:37:13, in reply to "OBR report"

Will take a while to fix your Tory recklessness.

Your hero Nigel is a grifter of the highest order.

Will you be the last rat off the sinking ship?

Posted by Farhat <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Farhat' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 15:11:52, in reply to "OBR report"

NEW - Rachel Reeves said she will "accept Nigel Farage’s request to be appointed Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead."

"It is a farce and a desperate distraction, and the people of Clacton deserve better.

"But if he wants to spend the summer arguing with a bin, I won't stop him."

Re: Will you be the last rat off the sinking ship?

Posted by Farhat <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Farhat' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 16:01:21, in reply to "Will you be the last rat off the sinking ship?"

Nigel Farage vs "the establishment"

He went to private school, worked as a stockbroker, has been a professional politician for 31 years, has his own TV show, is a brand ambassador for gold, is mates with POTUS, accepted a secret £5m gift, and owns five houses bought outright with cash

What a rebel

Re: OBR report

Posted by Farhat <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Farhat' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 15:08:09, in reply to "OBR report"

Yeh, but FARAGE.

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Posted by MG <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=MG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 14:59:40, in reply to "OBR report"

The UK is spending £301 million per day just to service its debt interest on Labour borrowing.

And that's just one point where you have totally undermined what could otherwise have been useful information.

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Posted by Godders <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Godders' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 14:50:33, in reply to "OBR report"

The thing is, is that needs some context. It is clearly written in an anti-Labour/Starmer way - for example NHS waiting lists stands at 7.22 million but that is actually down on the previous government.

Also, what was the record over the previous 14 years and how does in compare and what were the policies that the previous regime put in place to bring us to such a state?

But surely even more important, is what are we going to do about it? What policies can we have that will rectify it. To me an obvious point is to pay people more, then they will have more money to spend, then they will increase VAT receipts and profit margins to companies - who can then afford to employ more people and so the welfare bill comes down.

This is in stark contrast to a Cameron led conservative government who thought that the best way for society to benefit is to cut wages, this stagnating the economy because no-one (apart from the super rich) has any money to spend. Firms then have to reduce staff increasing the welfare budget. But because the economy is in a mess those relying on welfare have their income slashed so make poor health and lifestyle choices. This results in more people requiring hospital treatment increasing waiting times etc. And of course some choose a life of crime because they cannot afford the basics or are so disillusioned with life and society, which in turn adds pressure on the prison and justice system.

So, as you can see, there are spirals of positivity and spirals of negativity. And yet we chose to focus on the lowest common denominator and blame all out problems on those who are different from us in how they look, speak, and think. We need unity and positivity not negativity and division.

Live justly, love mercy, perpetuate generosity, walk humbly.

Lifestyle choices

Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 16:59:42, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

It costs less to make a Cottage pie from scratch than it does to buy a Big Mac. I’d suggest half the issue is we have a plague of very lazy people who don’t want to work and are quite happy pissing benefit money up the wall
There are of course genuine cases of people who do need help and support

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Posted by Farhat <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Farhat' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 9/7/2026, 11:04:06, in reply to "Lifestyle choices "

Currently there are 700,000 job vacancies. How many looking for work?

Most claiming benefits are in work - ie the government is subsidising the employer.

This country could quite easily give everybody £1m (or more realistically introduce UBI). Why doesn't that happen?

We are all individual, here by the grace of one tiny sperm entering an egg. You shouldn't expect your establishment ideas (hello Nigel!) to encompass everyone.

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Could you post recipe please

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Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:39:45, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "

Tray of 2% fat turkey mince
Onions , peppers , carrots
5 decent sized potatoes

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Posted by bodger1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bodger1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 18:11:15, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "

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Posted by Wilt <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Wilt' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:41:44, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "

The emoji king posts with fuck all to say.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 17:35:45, in reply to "Lifestyle choices "
Legend of Outlaws

That's harsh.
What would you suggest people who work all day, and don't get home until say 6pm do about dinner?
Or people who are disabled?

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Posted by TonyB <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=TonyB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 22:25:30, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "

How about cook dinner.
Novel idea I know !

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Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 17:37:45, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "

Both myself and my wife work all day , we don’t have McDonald’s for tea. Most ovens now have a timer. Bit of planning goes along way

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 17:42:19, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "
Legend of Outlaws

I do realise that there are people like you.
My parents both worked, and when my brothers, sister and I came home from school, we had to start cooking.
There were no timers then.
And you didn't mention disabled people.

Re: Lifestyle choices

Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:25:36, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "

Guess it depends on the disability ?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:53:52, in reply to "Re: Lifestyle choices "
Legend of Outlaws

Nit-picker.

Re: OBR report

Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 16:54:59, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Pay people more ? Where from ?

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Posted by Ampthill Fan <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Ampthill+Fan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 16:46:57, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Pay people more?..how on earth do we do that..crippling energy cost..higher Nat insurance..rates in Bedford spiralling through less support from central..parking charges increase..we are reducing staff numbers..not increasing

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Posted by Godders <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Godders' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 20:41:10, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Oh there's always money that people can find if they really want to if you own a business, or if you're the government. They have access to loans and borrowing if necessary.

Live justly, love mercy, perpetuate generosity, walk humbly.

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Posted by The Questioner <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=The+Questioner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 9/7/2026, 8:56:59, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Says the man who is paid by people putting in his charity box.
I am sure you come from a position of kindness but your naivety on how the business world works confirms why you believe in fairies.
Will post the main problems small businesses are facing below…it will probably get deleted by the left wing admin but Sheff can post left wing YouTube videos so let’s see if they let a BBC article remain this time.

Comedian Romesh Ranganathan has said he is "gutted" after the 89-year-old bakery chain he part-owns shut down.
Coughlans Bakery – which operates a chain of shops across Kent, Surrey, West Sussex and south London – announced it had ceased trading on Tuesday after it went into voluntary liquidation.
Ranganathan, best known for his deadpan stage style, became its co-owner in 2024, describing it as "the partnership of the century".
Managing director Sean Coughlan blamed the closure on the government's decision to increase national insurance contributions for employers in April last year, along with high business rates.
Posting on social media, he described the rates as having "absolutely smashed local business".

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Posted by bodger1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bodger1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 9/7/2026, 10:43:36, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

A poster who thinks thick Liz was a cracker complains about someone else klaxon.

Sounds like they have as much business acumen as you have.

Hopefully mods delete you under the sympathy act.

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Posted by m <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=m' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 21:59:06, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

If you own a business ?
So the lady who’s running a small hairdressing salon. Or the bloke struggling to make ends meet with a cafe ?
My Dad had a small business. The stress basically ended his life before he was 55
You don’t seem to have any idea
Still just pay people more eh.

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Instead of blaming the poor for this miserable existence you have why not blame the people who have hoarded the wealth at record levels.

Better still look in the mirror and blame yourself for failing.

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Posted by Andy Cappuccino <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Andy+Cappuccino' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 16:04:54, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

No, it's a collection of facts laying open the failure of this government for all to see. You and the rest of the lefty rabble on here see it as anti-Labour as you are pro-Labour, hence the tears.

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Posted by Bilko <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Bilko' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 17:17:11, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

You understand it's the state of the playing
Field now.
Not great but are you proud of 14 years
Of bollocks?

What excuses are you using for
Neo Liberal right wing shite that left us where we were.

Every day is a school day if you are prepared to accept it

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But unless you give context, supposed facts can mean absolutely nothing. For example my youngest has just been given a list of results from various tests. But it doesn't say if its a %age or how many is the top mark, or the average (mean, median, or mode). So we're presented with "facts" but they mean nothing without some context.

Live justly, love mercy, perpetuate generosity, walk humbly.

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Posted by MG <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=MG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 16:21:14, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

When Labour took office in July 2024, just 58.8% of patients were treated within 18 weeks. The target is 92%. By March 2026 it had only reached 65.3%

Like I've said previously, they aren't doing well but they are doing better on a lot of counts than what went before.

And it isn't all "facts" for what it's worth.

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It’s regurgitation from Elon Mong.

It’s not meant to be taken seriously.

The debt in 2010 was 1.08 trillion.

2024 it was 2.5 trillion.

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Posted by Earls <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Earls' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 17:06:05, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

All you’ve done to try to refute how politically obsessive you are on a forum at least nominally devoted to LTFC is to argue over less than 1%. A total inability to see the bigger picture suggests it’s not me who doesn’t understand facts.

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Posted by Sheff <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Sheff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:32:15, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Outlaws and before it LutonFC.com have always been a forum for discussing anything and everything.

It's only recently that some posts descend all to quickly into personal abuse.

Farige Bought For £5m

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Posted by Earls <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Earls' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:45:20, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Of course. But bodger1 only ever (OK, bar c5% of the time) posts political points.
I’m curious on the undeniable statistical football v politics imbalance, which strikes me as unusual even by Outlaws’ standards of unusual posters, especially when he’s often one of the first to abuse others’ views.

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5.26%.

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Posted by Earls <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Earls' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 20:46:57, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Is c5%, yes.

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No.

It’s less than that now.

You’ve ruined my percentage and bored me.

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Posted by Earls <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Earls' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 22:26:42, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

I’d refer sir to NaG’s comment below.

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I’m sorry to hear about her computer as well.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 22:55:12, in reply to "Re: OBR report"
Legend of Outlaws

Thank you. I don't think that was the post Earls was referring to, however.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 19:58:05, in reply to "Re: OBR report"
Legend of Outlaws

I think the best thing about Outlaws is that we all support Luton (although some do have a negative view of the players, coaches. board etc.)and can discuss other subjects in a mainly friendly way.

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Posted by Earls <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Earls' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 20:15:32, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

Welcome back to the board, btw, nice to see you back on here.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 20:31:31, in reply to "Re: OBR report"
Legend of Outlaws

Thank you. My computer was "playing up" and I couldn't log on, apart from as a guest on my phone. But Elder Master Chow came to the rescue.

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Posted by Earls <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Earls' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 20:14:29, in reply to "Re: OBR report"

I totally agree, it’s good to see debates with posts of diametrically opposed views get aired about politics, the merits of certain players and the club’s plans, etc.
But with certain posters, “mainly friendly” regrettably doesn’t apply.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/7/2026, 20:33:13, in reply to "Re: OBR report"
Legend of Outlaws

Get Pogue to kick them in a painful place

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