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It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Radio 5 are reporting that, in addition to Shabana Mahmood who is mentioned in that report, both David Lammy and Yvette Cooper are saying that Keir Starmer should set out a timetable for his departure.
Apparently, there are now 71 MPs saying publicly that he should either go now or set out a timetable for his departure.
I think that it will come down to whether Wes Streeting can gather enough support to move quickly before Andy Burnham can become an MP or Angela Rayner can settle her tax position with HMRC. Now has to be his best chance of getting the job if he can get the required level of support.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall in tomorrow's cabinet meeting.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
What's Raynor settling her tax dodging bill got to do with it, even if she pays it back its only because she got caught! Her political career should be over!
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Maybe it should be but, the way things work nowadays, she will be back. I think that, if Burnham is elected, she will have her choice of jobs. Possibly even a "Granita deal".
There is another frightening option that doesn't seem to get mentioned much - Ed Miliband.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
I think the biggest problem is that if you look across not even just Labour but all of the political parties we have . . . who would you replace him with?
There isn't exactly a lot of quality there is there?
I know the cheerleaders of various parties will put forwards Badenoch, Farage, Davey and co. But none of them have even close to what it takes.
I wouldn't say Polanski either by the way before the usual suspects pipe up.
I find it all quite depressing.
Burnham, who isn't even an MP looks as good as any I would say.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
An immediate positive reaction rather than deflection to be fair but how do they continually get themselves into these messes? They must know that sooner or later it will be uncovered.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
This seems to be politics now. The people vote and then the mp's actually decide who should run the country. And in six months more rebellion and some other nomark wants a go at running the country. None of them actually care about fixing the problems is all about themselves.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Needs to happen. He's been largely useless and I was entirely wrong about what I thought he was.
There was a great quote about him in a Guardian article the other week. “most people think that Keir Starmer is a nice guy out of his depth. He’s not. He’s an arsehole out of his depth.”
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Yet another nob head, self serving wanker that the dribblers will say is OK as its different to the previous dozen self serving wankers that have sat in no.10.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
you lost credibility (the small amount) you had when you tried to call out The Outsider last week (one of the best and most harmless posters on here). youve also conducted some odd behaviour in recent times.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
I asked a reasonable question, which he was happy to answer. I wasn't in anyway disrespectful to him.
I have alot of time for Outsider.
I think I know what you are talking about when you say odd, which was between me and someone you know well, who was aggressive towards me, I don't know about you ,but I will always defend myself.
You were the one calling people thick, you unfortunately are showing double standards.
I am happy to debate with anyone if they are reasonable.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
My guess is Streeting or Burnham with the winner being decided by whether Starmer goes now or later. In the current circumstances, Burnham has to face two challenges to become an MP. The first is to get permission to stand and the second is to win a by-election.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
He'd have pissed the Gorton seat in front of the pretend plumber. He's done loads of decent things in Manchester. Travelling around the city is so easy and cheap and he's got to take alot of credit for that. Like your man in London though, his record on knife crime and homeless isn't great. But he's got more bollocks than any labour MP has got. He's not my cup of tea but at least he's got some minerals
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Whilst it is technically possible it hasn't happened for well over 100 years. Presumably Starmer is the only one who could make him a Lord - would he do so - I'm not sure. If he had the best interests of his party in mind, you would say yes.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Yes unlikely but legal and possible if Starmer can leave on his own terms. This could be an approach and then Gary Neville can take over as Manchester Mayor.Winning is everything - more than you have
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
Burnham will scare Reform to death because he will work with the other progressives from day one.
Reform may have gone too soon as three years of Burnham will claw back lots of voters who have been put off by Starmer.Winning is everything - more than you have
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
I think that Burnham would be far more popular with the public (on all sides) than either Streeting or Rayner. I suppose that Mahmood would be the other possible candidate - maybe the fact that she has gone public with her criticism means that she thinks that she can get the support to challenge now. Seems unlikely to me but who knows.
Re: It's looking more a case of when rather than if - Newell to....
If Farage loses his seat Restore (or whatever they stand as) will win by a landslide. Look at the councillor results in Great Yarmouth last week.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
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on 11/5/2026, 22:45:06
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Not exactly a safe Labour seat.