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More importantly, whatever happened to all those exercise bikes that subs used for a while at the side of the pitch? Loads of clubs were using them. Hope they've not just been thrown into landfill.
Armchair wear? Season ticket since 95. How many games you been to in the past five seasons? My usual posts when not getting dragged into the gutter by your chimpery are just fine for debate. And they’re usually about LTFC.
You’re right. But sometimes Trump in Cumbria needs reminding of his now-longstanding irrelevance when he’s spamming the board with drivel 24/7 and trying to act like the guardian of the club’s soul, when in reality he’s a nasty piece of work. (I appreciate that’s not always been the case, but it certainly has been for at least the last couple of years.)
Because I ignore him makes me a prat ….😂😂😂 He clearly has some kind of attention seeking disorder that’s remained untreated all his life…best thing we can all do is not respond to his drivel and he can go and spout his nonsense on mumsnet or some such.
It was after my “poster you would like to punch on the nose” poll.
I listed 10 well known posters including myself. You were out in front at 65% with another board legend in second place on 13%. For reference I polled 5.
You then went awol for 2 weeks.It was his biggest tantrum ever
That’s in addition to the earlier flounce a few weeks earlier, when he posted that the board was full of people he objected to and asked that his account and posts be deleted. That one lasted about three weeks.
6 sodding 3??!!! And you waste your last few years on God's green earth on the shite routine you spin on here, in the belief you're playing a wonderful inside practical joke on the 100 or so people who actually look at this board. Good grief......
Yep. Shame on me. Now answer the question: how many games have you been to in the last five seasons? You’re only as good as your recent form, and yours is as bad as it gets.
The US blockade is a superb policy. It's costing the Iranian regime about $300m per day in lost oil revenue. It also increases the likelihood of Iran reaching full oil storage capacity at which point they will have to switch stop pumping oil, which then leads to the oil wells becoming inoperable due them filling up with brackish water. If this happens, and it was 3 weeks away at the point of the first ceasefire, it will cost them billions to make the oil wells operable again.
Meanwhile they need to find wages from somewhere for the roughly 450,000 members of the Basij, and the roughly 50,000 militias they have brought in from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The longer it goes on the worse it gets for the Iranian regime.
Superb.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
If your a religious nut, it’s wonderful, meanwhile for the rest of civilised society it’s going to cost us all in the wallet. For a war that won’t help one Iranian living with that hell regime.
It's cost me so far on petrol, which compared to being hung from a crane by religious nuts because I went against god is pretty damn easy. There's about 81 million people under the boot of the Iranian regime, a tiny minority ruling through terror over their own citizens and exporting that methodology all around the world. I do concede that things are likely to get worse before they get better, but as already said I think it's worth it when comparing the likely political trajectories of doing nothing or giving ground to the Iranian regime.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
The US / Israel attacks have now pretty much guaranteed that Iran regime stays in power. It’s actually strengthened them politically. It’s not like the US has form for this… Not to worry the yanky bankers and defence co’s are living their best lives $$$$$$
You’re assuming the regime falls sometime soon. What if it doesn’t?
There’s a real chance they just outlast the West’s appetite for pain. Because if it carries on as it is, I think the real ramifications will be more than just an extra few bob at the pump.
I'm hoping the regime falls, rather than assuming it will.
Yes I agree with you about the financial implications, but at the moment I am still pro intervention.
As an aside I googled when was poverty worst in the UK. It came back with 3 dates. 1900, when the empire was at it's height. The early to mid 90s and now. So I think that reflects bad policy at all those times and it backs up your argument for now as well. Whilst I agree the distribution of wealth is one of, if not the biggest problem at the moment, unfortunately the reality is the powerful will do whatever they want anyway unless there's a revolution of some sort (this could be as gentle as a democratic election or as extreme as a violent coup or civil war and all the possibilities in between those 2 extremes).
For me there's 2 basic threats occurring simultaneously. One is how the extremely wealthy run the world on their terms through cooperation and conflict with one another in a way that either circumnavigates what the rest of us have to deal with politically or massively influences the politics of the world. And the other is the clash of ideologies which is always happening as different leaders jockey into position domestically and then interact with other ideologies around the world, which obviously includes politics but can also go further, especially in the cases of extreme ideologies.
Having considered all of that I am pro intervention in Iran because that damages their power and their allies power. It's happening right now so that's the least worst option for me, rather than an idealistic fantasy of what would happen if everything was perfect.
If/when the regime falls we can go back to trying, and probably failing, to address the growing problem of wealth distribution.
This is all me thinking out loud. Please feel free to pick holes in it!outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Fairy 'snuff. I get the least-worst argument, but that only works if it actually leads somewhere better.
My big worry is there’s a decent chance it just entrenches them, they ride it out, and we’ve taken the hit for nothing. And they come out more confident knowing exactly the limits of American power and knowing exactly how to squeeze them and the West in the future.
I am hopeful this time is different and we don’t end up with Iraq , Syria , Afghanistan situation when even after so much bloodshed nothings much seemed to change. It does seem that a large part of the population want regime change and crucially even the current pain doesn’t overthrow the mullahs but puts their nuclear program back 10 years it makes the world a safer place imo.
I think Iranian influence in Iraq is the most likely worst development if the Iranian regime falls. They're already active there, it's a predominantly Shia country. Iran's gain could very much become Iraq's loss. I could see them taking over a portion of Iraq and that getting quite messy.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Yeah I agree that is a distinct possibility. I also agree Trump isn't doing this out of the goodness of his heart. He's going to be trying to get an advantage personally as well as for the US. That's just reality.
I just keep returning to the point, is a world in which the Iranian regime is able to exert it's influence, whether at a static level or an increasing level, a good thing? And it's a resounding no from me.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
It's helping the vast majority of Iranian people. It's helping all the countries surrounding Iran. It's helping western strategy at the level of Chinese and Russia verses the west yes. You must be aware Iran, China and Russia are all trying to destabilise the UK?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Are you aware there is a ceasefire? Prior to that I am reflecting what I have heard from the Iranian people themselves. Are they nuts then?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
I follow a lot of different accounts on Instagram that claim to reflect the wishes of the majority of the people in Iran. There's a massive diaspora of Iranians who are passing on messages from people in Iran stuck behind the blackout.
Do you honestly think the majority of people in Iran want the current regime to stay in place?
outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Based on what I have seen they don't want to bombed in an ideal scenario but they are willing to suffer it as a means to an end.
And as already mentioned, they aren't being bombed at the moment. There is a siege being carried out instead by the US blockade of Iranian oil.
Yes Trump is bad, but nowhere near as bad as the Iranian regime. Or do you think he is worse than them?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
As already mentioned I am reflecting what they are saying. Yes it is disturbing, that's the unfortunate reality when Islamic extremists run a country.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Exactly. It always amazes me how some people, especially British people, can't see the bigger picture with all of this.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
At the end of the day we've all got our own opinions. I'd respect bodger1 more if he would just state clearly what his is/are instead of making vague cryptic comments, which aren't even related to this thread if Caught Jester is correct. It's a bit difficult to discuss things otherwise, so why does he even join the discussion if he's just going to feign boredom and duck out before having to actually state his position? I wouldn't say he's a thickie, just a bit odd.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
What's so funny bodger1 mate?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Nope sorry, haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Care to elaborate? Or are we playing cryptic captions now?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Ah, the old be as vague as possible so as not to risk having an actual point of view to debate angle. Nice. I like it.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
I think he means a (possibly exaggerated) figure of the English population who think it actually means something to sport the English flag mate. Personally I’m with the other 83% in that I couldn’t give a flying fuck. But then I’m not exclusively British and have extensive family ties to another country.
Oh right. What's that got to do with US intervention in Iran? Or have I just taken acid?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
I don't know. I'm expressing my opinion, said it before I don't do group think. Thanks for clarifying what you meant though. It's a bit more sensible when trying to discuss things. Presumably those polls reflect the same people who voted in Trump? My point being that if you think he is so stupid, and I admit he is mental, he only got where he is because he was voted in. So either polls are good from your point of view, ie for your argument because they reflect discontent at the bombing, which he isn't currently doing anyway which was my whole point (the blockade is a less violent and likely more effective strategy), or polls are bad from your point of view because it gets Trump elected. Or are you just picking and choosing selectively?
As for UK polling that demonstrates what I said earlier. I'm amazed how many British people can't see the bigger picture. Aren't you bothered about the overwhelming majority of people in Iran who want the regime gone? I have heard it's about 90 percent, so that would be about 81 million people.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
For the god knows how many times I have said this. I don't have hatred for Muslims! They are people. I don't hate them. I hate Islamism which is the combination of spiritual and political Islam. It's an ideology which I profoundly disagree with, not the people who follow it for a huge variety of reasons. Please stop mis representing what I say and understand the difference between what you incorrectly claim I think and what I actually think.
It's the ideology that I disagree with which is ultimately one of domination over anyone else that doesn't follow it. It's a poisonous belief system in my opinion.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
It's the ideology I disagree with. A self appointed superiority based on circular logic.
I think a lot of people who identify as Muslim don't actually follow Islam. It's the same with other religions including Christianity.
There are also those who are born into a Islamic society and have never known any alternative.
A person is made up of what they believe. But beliefs can change. Therefore it's not the person who should be criticised, it's the belief system.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
I think the best ideology is a very specific strand of Buddhism which upholds the Lotus Sutra. And I can go into as much detail as you would like if you want to ask me why.
I'm guessing you mean USA when you say land of the mutants? (I wish you would just speak in plain English for the sake of being able to understand what you mean!). No I don't really like any form of religious extremism, most especially any religion that claims justification for acts of violence.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
No I don't believe in God*. In Buddhism the closest thing to God is something called the Mystic Law. Which is a law of cause and effect that is the reason behind everything. It includes a belief in the simultaneity of cause and effect which just means the cause and the effect can occur simultaneously, rather than in a linear timeline.
*Having said that I don't necessarily completely rule out the possibility, because I don't have irrefutable evidence for or against the existence of God.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Buddhism has the opposite starting point to Christianity in that Buddhists believe people are originally and inheritantly good. Whereas I believe Christianity believes humans are originally sinners.
It's just different philosophies, neither is necessarily correct but as individuals with free will we can choose whatever we want to believe.
There's an admission in Buddhism that there will always be an element of the unknown, hence the word Mystic in the name given to explain everything, the Mystic Law. But you can still position yourself to get the best out of it despite not knowing how it works in it's entirety.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
We should all just try to see the best in the Iranian regime and leave them alone and then everything will be ok.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Needs to get worse before it gets better. The world will be immeasurably better without the current Iranian regime and their funding of global terrorism. I still say it's worth it. It's pretty much a straight choice between China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis or USA, Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel. I am staunchly with the latter as the least worst option.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
Good for you. outlaws is not the barometer of sanity. You're either Luton full tilt or you are nothing. We have spunked way too much money on shite. The end.
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