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Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Whhatter on 12/8/2025, 11:25:49
What the hell with all these YouTube doomsayers saying about a UK Civil War brewing? It's as if they want it to happen whilst they clearly don't think of the ramifications it would cause. I get people are angry about certain things going on with the government, policing, immigration etc but what the hell is this all going to lead to??
' Live for today, not for tommorow '
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 14:37:33, in reply to "Youtube doomsayers"
It's probably because there's so many fucking idiots in this country bending over backwards to appease an ideology that is fucking evil and teaches it's followers to hate non believers. It's fucking medieval and should be outlawed, not pandered to by idiots who don't seem to realise what they are enabling.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Pop over to South America and see what those vicious thugs do. Trust me they are ten times worse.
There is no denying there is a problem with radical Islamists, but there is problems in all walks of life, in all religions in every single country on this planet.
I remember growing up and hearing about rhe IRA bombings and when the Animal Liberation set off a device at Debenhams in Luton there were rumours it was IRA at first and there was panic. Sometimes events like this confuse and make people believe there is something going on when it's not. The IRA is all about so no surprise there.
I know good Muslims, and I know bad Muslims. My in laws, who both passed away over the past 2 years lived on Dunstable Road for 62 years. The Muslims who lived near them grew up around them, and looked after them until the day they passed. They even came to the church for both funerals even though it is deemed unsuitable in their faith, and they also visit their graveside when they go to pay respect to their own family. They themselves despise the Radicals.
The good in this world outweighs the bad, and we can blame so much of what is happening on the digital age.
' Live for today, not for tommorow '
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 17:56:22, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I don't disagree with any of that. Unfortunately the Islamic extremists are able to bully the non extreme Muslims into submission. Look at the way Hamas have used the population of Gaza to hide behind human shields and to extract exorbitant taxes from to fund the leadership's luxurious lifestyles. And unfortunately the non extreme Muslims make it easier for the extreme Muslims to exist in the first place. Just as the Krays ran their neighbourhood in East London or John Gotti in New York. They're all violent bullies and parasites who exploit the fear in those they dominate.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Utter shite. The RA were looking to end British rule over the 6 counties that form Northern Ireland and reunite those counties with the 26 in Eire. TAL32.Our day will come
Trust me, having an Irish Catholic Father and a Scottish Protestant mother i do know a bit about this. I know full well what the IRA fight or fought for but they way they did it was/is wrong. I think Catholics and Protestants killing one another and murdering innocent people is wrong, so yes Religion does come into it.
As per TAl32, maybe one day it will come and I'd like to see it myself, but it won't happen in our lifetime.' Live for today, not for tommorow '
Yet the BBC amongst all other media sources have been well and truly captured and are peddling this evil 24/7. Don’t get me started on LBC….FFS
Thank heavens for Channel 4 yesterday making a fool (yet again) of “mayor” Andrea.
Even the Guardian appear to have been intimidated and attack Labour at every turn rather than tell people of the obvious threats to their freedom and common decency most recently seen in 1930s Germany.
Labour haven’t got everything right but they are doing their best with the hand that has been dealt them and a 14 year legacy of corruption and asset stripping by Johnson and his mates.
Labour must and will do better, announcing a Referendum on the EU would be a brave and critical next step.
The bounce and financial growth resulting may help them form a “collation of the good” government in 29/30.
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 14:47:14, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
Yeah exactly. The people who genuinely think that are so fucking misinformed and/naïve it's is fucking staggering.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
It’s an orchestrated effort to try and make the impression that the only solution is a General Election. Tell lies and create a narrative that is wrong but the ignorant believe it.
Even when official crime figures are published they are now framed as “lies” by Reform and this is picked up by the media who want to create this “tinderbox” situation to fill their 24 hours news channels. Get the public to start distrusting the police will be the next tactic and justify the vigilante groups, as per Bedford.
The next election is at least FOUR years away, that’s how democracy works.
Non-reporting by MSM, eg rape of 12 year old girl in Nuneaton by migrants, is doing as much as anything to 'stoke things up', when the truth finally comes out, as it is bound to in the digital age, ordinary citizens are bound to be angry
Nah. Your average 'YouTube doomsayers' are just after attention to boost their earnings. The extreme far right wing will of course make up a minority of them but to make out its some big orchestrated thing is pathetic tin foil hat nonsense.
IMO so many people are utterly pissed off with the way the country is going and the likes of Starmer calling anyone out that is against at least part of immigration as 'far right' is just adding to the unrest. Things are going to get alot worse before they get better. There's not a chance September 13th will go peacefully for a start.
No reason for it to go tits up , unless the police want it to happen. We’ve seen how they operate on match days sometimes , trying to keep opposing fans apart knowing for well that they want something to happen , one thing for sure is our town is lost for sure ,
It won't if the usual shitheads from either 'side' stir it up on social media as they are already dling.
Good for sales of snide Stone Island and Burberry and pissy lager and coke I guess, and signwriters from the tossy Socialist Workers Party. All of whom will want to attack the police of course.
A certain well known Lutonian and his shady foreign sponsors for one. The offshoots from National Action -Patriotic Alternative etc. Loads of such neo Nazi groups. Britain First for the 'light' version. And the people pulling their strings...
So, a one man band, a few misfits draped in the union flag, and a handful of young men looking at the anarchists cookbook on line are a serious threat to the country? Are you f'in serious?Only dead fish swim with the tide.
Absolutely zero evidence maybe? Unless they're Russian sponsored gangs rather than callous coin-eyed cunts who don't give a shit about human life or anything else than personal gain. Which is what they look like to me.
Thinking beyond him to the wider extreme right wing and social disruptors whose actions are challenging the validity of democracy, here and throughout Europe. Which plays into the malign states' hands.
That's rather pathetic. You don't actually have any lucid contributions to make, it seems.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 15:02:04, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I think most people are against extreme right wing ideology. Unfortunately a lot of do Godders fail to recognise the threat posed by the book of a certain religion and what it teaches its followers. If that ideology was brought out as brand new today it would be outlawed because of what it teaches. It's not extreme right wing to point this out. It's not racist either because it's an ideology that any person of any race can choose to follow or not. This is very basic and easy to understand yet the far left intentionally so it seems like to ignore this and tend to apply far right labels to genuinely concerned people who have legitimate concerns. The far left are wholly guilty of stirring up just as much trouble as the far right. They are both two sides of the same coin and it would be better for everyone if they were both called out by the sensible majority.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
You don't actually have to repeat your disingenuous rant about Islam ten times in the same thread. It's not disingenuous about Islamic extremists of course but it is certainly disingenuous to lump all muslims in together.
This thread is probably showing why all such threads should be deleted and registration tightened up.
Yes, lots. My neighbours on both sides of my house, for instance. The devout Muslims on one side are just about the nicest, kindest people you could ever meet. My neighbourhood is almost entirely Muslim and North Manchester is very multi cultural. Like Luton, where the club does some great work with the local communities.
So, I'll throw it back at you - do you know many Muslims?
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 15:37:35, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
It's the ideology which is at the root of never ending problems. Because there are so many who follow it, it becomes a significant problem even if it's a minority who use it to justify their hatred of non believers. 1.8billion followers, even if it's only 5% who are extremist, that's a massive problem.
It's not Muslims, it's Islam that needs to be rejected. It is supposed to be perfect because it's the word of God and you can't criticise or challenge it. Sorry but straight away that is a massive red flag.
There have been attempts to reverse the abandonment of blasphemy laws by those with an Islamist agenda and very prominent and respected people in legal circles have been increasingly raising this as an ongoing concern.
There are organisations that are proscribed in the middle east who are allowed to legally operate in higher education establishments who are targeting students and trying to radicalise them.
There are extremists in every prison with the run of the prison. Also targeting vulnerable people in there and aggressively trying to convert/radicalise them.
The extremists are relentless in their aims and methods.
It's a religion that is open about wanting world domination.
It is a religion that falls into violent conflict in most of the places around the world where it is present. And the other places without outright violent conflict with non believers it is guilty of human rights abuses against foreign workers or it's own people, with eye watering inequality.
The trans Saharan slave trade was only officially ended in the mid 20th century, having started in the 7th century with approximately 3 times the number of victims compared to the British slave trade. Both odious but something to consider next time an extremist tries to con you into hating your own country.
Please don't call this a rant. I'm simply pointing out things that seem to have been taboo for far too long.
There were about 1.6m Muslims in the 2011 census. This was more than doubled by the 2021 census.
The number one boys baby name for the last 2yrs running is Mohammed. A man they are taught is the perfect human, someone to respect and emulated. A man who married a 6yr old and who had sex with her when she was 9yrs old.
This is a religion where a woman is raped can be stoned for adultery.
A religion where a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man.
None of this is good or should be supported or apologised for.
I read the Quran about 22 years ago. It teaches that anyone who helps Muslims is wasting their time unless they convert.
It teaches young impressionable people to hate non believers.
If you try to leave the religion the punishment for that under Sharia law is death.
You can't practice Christianity or build a church in Saudi Arabia.
This is not a rant. It's just inconvenient facts for Islamic apologists to consider.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
You probably need to take your copy and paste propaganda elsewhere. Seriously. This is not the right place for it.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 15:53:03, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I don't bring it up myself, I add to a thread if one has already been started. It's not copy and paste, it's just what I have written off the top of my head. It's not propaganda either, at least not by the dictionary definition of what propaganda means anyway. The fact you choose to refer to it as propaganda is a real shame. We have got on well on here for well over a decade. Let's just agree to disagree, but please don't patronise someone just because they share a different opinion to you. Cheers.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
There's nothing patronising intended. This is not the place for your diatribes, if you prefer them to be called that.
Hopefully this whole thread will be deleted as it is descending into what has ruined the board in the past.
Btw, I have no idea whether we've got on well for ten years or so as you have chosen to change your posting name.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 16:26:11, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I am surprised this thread and another the other day which strayed slightly into this area haven't been deleted to be honest.
I preferred it when you could have proper discussions on here. But I agree pre registration it became completely toxic.
I like to think I am capable of having a serious discussion without it descending into toxicity. It's what civilisations are founded on!
Unfortunately this issue is everywhere at the moment, and as alluded to the poster called Well, having witnessed the war in the former Yugoslavia I personally don't think we should avoid the issue. The start of the thread was why are people talking about a civil war. I think in part it's because of the reluctance to have a good discussion. Having said that I can understand why this isn't the place for it, to a certain extent.
At the end of the day I want people to live peacefully and respectfully alongside each other. If I believe any group in society is doing anything to put obstacles in the way of that I see it as a duty to speak out. Nobody should be above criticism.
I've been about 5 different names on here. Trust me we have more in common than not and I support you as a fellow Hatter and more generally as a decent bloke.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/8/2025, 16:05:34, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers" Legend of Outlaws
Do you remember a few seasons ago, when the local Muslims were handing out free sweets to the people queuing to get into a match at Kenilworth Road? Have you seen the kids playing football in Oak Road before a match? Or the way the local community lined the streets of Bury Park to watch the parade for winning the playoffs to get into the Prem? Just stop generalising, there’s a good chap.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 16:18:13, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I've already explained I don't have a problem with Muslims. I have a problem with the Islamic ideology. You will get people of all faiths who follow their religion to differing extents.
Unfortunately the Islamic ideology cannot be altered because it is based on a book that is supposedly perfect. Therefore it can't be reformed or changed in any way.
This doesn't matter for Muslims that don't follow it to the letter, but unfortunately they are then open to criticism for not being 'good Muslims' because they are only following some rather than all of the teachings in their religious text.
Yes handing out sweets is nice but I'm afraid it pales into insignificance against the backdrop of 9/11 or 7/7 or Manchester Arena or London Bridge etc etc.
Kids playing football in the street is great obviously. People supporting their local team is great too. That doesn't mean there aren't any other things to be sceptical about. It would be wholly naive to do that. Unfortunately it seems there are plenty of people who don't want to look at the harsh reality because it is too unpleasant to do so and probably requires too much effort to fix. Sorry but that is a cop out.
You can like people but still criticise certain aspects of the things they choose to do, ultimately out of compassion for them.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/8/2025, 16:36:10, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers" Legend of Outlaws
But you are aware there are different “sects”, e.g. Sunni and Shia. You cannot lump all Muslims as one group.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 16:47:34, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
Of course I am aware good grief! Once again NaG it's the ideology I have a problem with, not the various people who choose to adhere to it with all the varying interpretations and to varying extents of fantasicism. The schisms within Islam are just like the schisms in other religions.
The big difference between Islam and most other religions is the stated aim of ultimately, little by little, or, more violently when the opportunity arises, converting everyone to Islam, which is completely at odds with my personal belief that there ought to be a mixture of different beliefs. Nobody knows what is going on ultimately or why we are here or what we should do, and anyone who claims otherwise should at the very least be handled with caution.
A book that supposedly lays out the perfect guide on how to live because it's the perfect word of God is incredibly dubious and should not be the basis of legitimising violent abuse of people that don't follow its rules.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/8/2025, 17:16:24, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers" Legend of Outlaws
True. Go back in history and you’ll find the Crusaders doing just that.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 17:30:45, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
Yep. And come forward a bit and you'll find the Ottoman Empire behaving rather unpleasantly too. Or if you want to concentrate on the here and now how about the 66,872 Islamist attacks worldwide between 1979 and 2024. The absolute vast majority of which have occurred since 2013. These attacks caused the deaths of at least 249,941 people, source:
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/8/2025, 17:41:13, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers" Legend of Outlaws
Good grief! You can’t (if you’re a rational human being), blame the whole membership of any organisation for the actions of a few. For instance, do you go round thumping supporters of other football clubs?
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 17:50:34, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
For the third time NaG its not Muslims per se I am calling out. It is Islam. It is the Quaran and the guidelines it sets out. If it were possible to flick a switch and to remove Islam from history and from existence but all those who currently follow it were still here do you think I would have a problem with them? In case you think yes let me tell you that I wouldn't. Because they wouldn't be following, to varying extents, a guide book that legitimises violence against non believers and abuse against believers who don't follow the guidelines properly.
Please don't tell me you can't follow this nuance? It's not even very difficult to understand.
On the flip side do you see how I haven't interpreted your mention of the Crusades to mean that you think all Christians are violent people?
So why have you assumed I believe all Muslims are equally bad? It's just coming across a bit odd from you to be completely honest.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
So you'll probably know that most are just like everyone else, and simply want themselves and their families to have a happy, peaceful life
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Crouchender on 12/8/2025, 11:53:51, in reply to "Youtube doomsayers"
Rage-farming.
Create some controversial content.
Get loads of clicks, for and against.
Earn loads of money. Easy.
PS. Genuinely thought this was gonna be a thread about Deggy and ‘Oh When The Town” and thought it a bit harsh to call them ‘doomsayers’
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Round Green Hatter on 12/8/2025, 11:52:17, in reply to "Youtube doomsayers"
People are definitely a lot less bothered about being labeled right wing these days and voicing their opinions on mass immigration With net figures of 700,000+ every year coming in I don't know what anyone expects though?
People are sick to the back teeth of crap services, increased taxes, shrinking job market, increase in bills, traffic jams trains that cost a fortune and are always full/late. All while the knobs who think trail biking and tennis is fun are paid bonuses for pumping crap into rivers, get paid huge bonuses.
Reform, who are clearly just tory posh gobshites got 4.1mill votes last year, in another 4 years they will probably get 200+ seats.
Let’s face it, people are accused of being right-wing nowadays just because they object to Pakistani rape gangs.All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
The fact remains if Pakistanis - 507.7 suspects per 100,000 people - raped with the same prevelance as white men -155.3 suspects per 100,000 people - thousands more white women and girls would be safe.All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
So, West Yorkshire Police carried out a study that encompassed the whole country or have I identified just one reason why you shouldn't be citing statistics.
That will come as a great comfort to the fathers of white girls in Leeds and Bradford.All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
By your reasoning, there's no need for comfort for the others because it's just a regional issue. I hope your daughter gets home safely.All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 18:09:56, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
Part of the problem is the reluctance to record the ethnicity of suspects. Which then enables speculation which may or may not be accurate. I think it's a policy which is at odds with what it was presumably meant to prevent, ie unjust racism, because you can't have an accurate analysis of what precisely is happening therefore anyone can claim anything.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Problem is, those who are ‘definitely a lot less bothered about being labeled right wing’, would have people believe every one of the 700,000+ you quote got here in a rubber dingy. In 2024 the number was 37,000 who crossed the channel - slightly more than 5% of the total. Of that a reasonably high proportion, around 68%, are granted asylum in the UK and are then legally entitled to stay. But will you ever hear those who are ‘definitely a lot less bothered about being labeled right wing’ admit any of that??
If 37k is 5% then the total is 740k coming into the country. Why do we need to take in that many immigrants? And, can our services housing etc cope? 68% of those crossing the channel are granted asylum. Most of them seem to be young, single males coming here from France so they are not fleeing war, persecution etc so that figure is far too high. The rule in the EU is that asylum applications should be made in the country that you land. Let's be honest we are a dumping ground for the EU's unprocessed and unwanted migrants.
‘ The rule in the EU is that asylum applications should be made in the country that you land.’
You do know we’re not in the EU anymore?? Don’t forget We got are country bak…. When we were in the EU we were party to the Dublin Agreement…
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Round Green Hatter on 12/8/2025, 13:07:52, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
You think people believe that 1 million people are coming over here on boats every year? I said 700,000 net (728,000 last year to be precise), not the total.
Not even Farage, Tice, or Lowe are that stupid. What do they do is conflate the two: “Last year over 700,000 people arrived in this country, that is too many. Only last week another 300 landed in rubber boats on the shore at Dover.” And for certain types of people the causal link is made…
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Ronnies Finger on 12/8/2025, 11:41:44, in reply to "Youtube doomsayers"
Social Media mate , take it away , wouldn’t happen, I for one am sick to the back teeth of it( just leave a few message boards though!)
The divs don't want to spend money on foreign aid, in order to improve the lives of people where they are so that they wouldn't risk their lives to be here.
They voted to leave the EU so we no longer have a working relationship with interested parties as to how to stop people endangering their lives to get here.
There isn't a viable deterrent, given that they hand over their life's savings in order to risk actual death crossing the channel.
Once they are here, we have to put them somewhere while we process their applications, the majority of which are approved, but the divs don't like that either.
And they spent the last fourteen years proudly supporting a party who did absolutely fuck all about it whilst lining their pockets and arse-fucking our economy so that there isn't very much money to do very much.
The useless cunts supported a ridiculous plan to send people to Rwanda (in exchange for the same number of people Rwanda deemed undesirable, ergo no net immigration reduction and what delights would we have got?). It cost hundreds of millions and resulted in TWO people being paid to go to Rwanda. Are they still there or did they use the money just to come back and did we have to take two or Rwanda's finest, upstanding, citizens in exchange.
I'd suggest the divs need to own the part they played in the shit show and let the grown ups get on with trying to sort it out.
COYH, Jim
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 12/8/2025, 17:24:52, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
It is interesting that now you're interested in how badly the country is being run. Up until recently this sort of thing was extremely boring and the purview of self-appointed experts and such.
If we're fucked, it's - again - largely due to the previous lot doing absolutely fuck all to help because it suited them that immigration was the root of all evil and not them doing a shit job, arse-fucking the economy and stealing all of our money. Which, rather conspicuously, you've never commented upon apart from trotting out the they're all as bad as each other trope because ill-advisedly accepting some spectacles is EXACTLY equivalent to giving the landlord of your local £40m of OUR money.
When are you going to own it? Or is it the previous lot's fault until the end of your term?All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Well, I didn't vote for the last shower to arsefuck our economy, or steal all of our money and do shit all useful but spunk a shit load on dog-whistle bullshit for the fucking stupid.
Not sure what there is for me to own, there.COYH, Jim
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 18:44:43, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
It's every political party's fault that has avoided addressing the transferal of wealth to the super rich at the expense of everyone else and not doing anything close to enough to dealing with it. Therefore it's both the Tories and Labour's fault that we are where we are right now because they both have done fuck all about it and both show no signs of doing fuck all about it in the future. Therefore don't fall into the trap of getting sidelined on my party is better than yours, because that is what the super rich want. What they absolutely don't want is for all of us to put aside our political allegiances and demand an end to the growing wealth inequality that is fucking all of us right in the arse.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
I just want someone to take responsibility. I honestly don't care who. It's a hard watch from over here of what's happening to that country.All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
What’s worse since these clowns got in compared to the other clowns.
Please tell.
You didn’t seem bothered about the decline before.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 15:13:01, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
What exactly do you get out of taking this stance? Do you think it's right that people enter the country illegally? Don't you think this is wholly unfair on those who have entered the country following the rules? What about the billions spent already on the illegal immigrants? And the many billions more projected in the future to cater to them? What about the various issues with illegal immigrants that are committing crime while they are here? Or the fact they are given better conditions than law abiding legal tax paying citizens of the UK? They get £70 per week to spend on whatever they like. They get a brand new mobile phone when they get here. Free NHS dentist. Free food. Free accommodation in hotels. Not supposed to work but many do and the authorities turn a blind eye to it. They seem to cause fear and intimidation in the areas where they stay, many that used to be very nice areas before. They are even paid £3k to choose to go home. Apparently some of them use the system to come here for a gap year without wanting to be granted the right to stay because after a year of free food accommodation and free £70 per week they can then get the £3k to go home. Meanwhile many taxpayers can't get a dentist, have less than £70 per week disposable income and don't go around intimidating decent people or committing crime.
This is why people have had enough. And seeing people like you enjoying winding up those who speak out against it, is frankly fucking annoying mate. Why do you do it?outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
You're wasting your time with that simpleton unfortunately. He's incapable of holding down a normal conversation. He does get very angry, very quickly though. Which can be amusing.
My point is you seem fixated on this group when others are no better.
I hate all ideologies.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 16:00:13, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I don't like extremism of any kind either, except for people who fervently support LTFC of course. But my concern with this particular type of extremism is because there are so many people who don't seem to understand their aims or methods or the sheer relentless. The stats demonstrate this is not an irrational concern because of the burgeoning proliferation of followers. Therefore it is currently of greater concern than other equally concerning ideologies. That's all.
Having witnessed the horrendous war in the former Yugoslavia I think we ought to heed that particular lesson from history before things get that distorted here. Because the amount of antagonism required to enable that situation only seems to be growing at the moment.
We need to be able to have grown up conversations with each other without resorting to dogmatic stances, which are often based on highly inaccurate assumptions about people who want to discuss genuine and entirely reasonable concerns.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Maybe we stop bombing the crap out of countries, that would be a start in stopping migrations.
Re: Youtube doomsayers
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 17:40:15, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
The point I was making at 15:13 is that when you reply in the way you did to bbb it seems to suggest that bbb is wrong to be concerned about illegal immigrants coming into the country. Zoom out and this same thing seems to be happening at a national level with regular people with legitimate concerns either being ignored, ridiculed or mislabeled as far right. And whilst there are obviously race baiters in amongst the protesters there are also just regular people who want more to be done about the issue so that the current threat to their neighbourhood is removed so they can get back to how it was before the illegal immigrants were here. It isn't really helping anyone to respond the way you did to bbb in my opinion. In fact I think it inflames things unfortunately which was why I chimed in and asked you what you get out of doing that.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Given the fact you've followed my posts for '14 years' , even a simpleton like yourself will get that I've never hidden behind different posting names and never kept my identity secret. Unlike yourself, that just acts like snivelling worm that crys and gets angry when others put you down. You should man up a bit mate.
Once again though, it's just spiffing that you're not bothered about me🤣🤣🤣 ffs🤣🤣🤣
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 18:05:25, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
Ok fair enough but can you see why regular people are beginning to get exasperated at being branded far right when they really aren't?
And for what it's worth in my opinion the elephant in the room which is more concerning to me than my belief that the Islamification of the UK seems to be increasing at the moment, is the transferal of wealth to the super rich at the literal expense of EVERYONE ELSE. So you can berate the Tories if you like but the same point exists I'm afraid which is that whilst you are squabbling and antagonising each other over party politics the super rich are still financially raping all of us. And in fact it helps them to do so because a population arguing amongst themselves over which way the chairs on the Titanic should face keeps them winning and everyone losing. Divide and rule old boy. Try not to help it manifest if you can.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
I really can’t win but I’ve noticed these loons blaming everything on Starmer on the socials despite them kernts voting for the destruction of this country for 14 years.
Agree about the super rich being this shitholes biggest issue.
Regarding where this country is heading try and relax as you can’t do anything about it.
Err, point of order. In one particular plebiscite the people of two parts of the Union DIDN’T vote for the destruction of the country. Though you know that anyway.
Yeah, and in one of those two parts of the UK those that were born there (in THAT part of the UK) retain all their rights and entitlements - in effect making those of us born on the mainland second class citizens. Try explaining that to your average thickie.
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 18:26:32, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
I'm not unrelaxed mate. I've got a fucking brilliant life and I am very aware of that and believe I am very very fortunate.
I enjoy discussing things probably far more than most people who seem to get discussion fatigue very quickly.
Throughout my life I have been told I think too much which is actually very amusing. I reckon the people saying that don't think enough.
You can think a lot and still be very happy. Honest!
You can't develop into anything better without discussing things in my opinion. It's important and it should be the fundamental basis for human interaction.
Anyway, two nil to the MIGHTY FUCKING HATS, FUCK COVENTRY, FUCK THE RICOH ARENA AND FUCK JIMMY HILL FOR ABOLISHING THE PAY CAP FOR PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS. LOOK WHERE THAT HAS FUCKING GOT US. THE TWAT.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Posted by Poster from the past on 12/8/2025, 14:46:16, in reply to "Re: Youtube doomsayers"
There's 2 issues facing this country.
First and foremost is the accelerating transfer of wealth to the super rich at the expense of everyone else. Fail to deal with this and nothing else can realistically be expected to make any difference to things. It's the single biggest issue facing us because it's at the root of virtually every other problem.
The second issue is the growing influence of a certain religion that is completely at odds with our way of life and teaches it's followers to hate non believers. It is growing at an alarming rate.
The two issues amplify each other. So they both need sorting as soon as fucking possible.outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
Very true, it just seems that some YouTube channels just want to antagonise people. That Charlie Veitch in particular is a complete bellend and there are many more like him.' Live for today, not for tommorow '
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