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Old photo of Sefton Road

Posted by Eileen <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Eileen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 15:23:59

I have just been given a postcard which the lady thought was Sefton Road, it had 51 Sefton Road on the back and Grannie Marchell. It shows the building as Holly House and has a shop and a Threlfalls pub on it wil a lot of children all standing outside to have their photo taken. I then startted the detective work as I didn't recognise it. The shop had W.Hampson above it and it looks to be about 1890 to 1900's looking at the children's clothes. Marchell didn't come up with anything and W Hampson showed a William in Litherland Park but it was hard to pin anything positive. I then got out the magnifying glass and above the shop door in the glass I could just see J Jeffers so tried this on the census reoords and eventually came up with John Jeffers in 49 Sefton Road with a shop so went to the next one and found 51 Sefton Road was a Jane Marshall as the manager of a public house. Haven't done any more research yet but google maps show that 49 and 51 are right behind Jean's old house in Litherland Park so almost opposite to The old Litherland Arms. I've tried googling Holly House but that didn't help as yet. I'll scan the postcard and the census I have found later. Just thought you'd enjoy this and maybe some of the members will remember it. The land now has the Sheltered accomodation on it.

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Posted by PeteH2 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=PeteH2' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/1/2025, 21:00:45, in reply to "Old photo of Sefton Road"

That photo is a belter. Two of my grandparents were living in Sefton Road ar the time of that photo. Both primary school age.

Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH

Posted by Eileen <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Eileen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 27/1/2025, 20:24:07, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

Hi Pete,What were your grandparents names and what number did they live in? I'm trying to sort Sefton Road houses in the Census returns and as Ronnie mentioned they renumbered the houses between 1905 and before 1911. We have found Holly House as a beer house on the 1881 Census with Henry Green as resident.

Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH

Posted by PeteH2 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=PeteH2' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 28/1/2025, 22:43:19, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH"

This is the Seddons. My grandparents on my dads side were next door neighbours in Sefton Rd.

The child Elizabeth is my grandmother.

Note that in the 1911 census, Ellen Seddon, nee Wignall, gives her birthplace as Ormskirk. Unfortunately that’s not true. She was born in the workhouse in Liverpool and abandoned there by her mother, poor thing.

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Posted by PeteH2 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=PeteH2' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 29/1/2025, 19:31:19, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH"

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Posted by PeteH2 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=PeteH2' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 28/1/2025, 22:28:51, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH"

Hi Eileen,

Their details are on these census sheets. James Halsall and wife Mary Jane, eventually at 87 Sefton Road. They were my great grandparents. What

Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH

Posted by Norma <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Norma' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 29/1/2025, 10:48:43, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH"

Do you know who owned the house 83 to 93,one of my frinds family lived 85 she said the house belongs to two big men who lived in liverpool,

Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH

Posted by Norma <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Norma' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 27/1/2025, 21:15:59, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road FAO PeteH"

My grandparent moved to Sefton rd about 1898 or just before ,first they lived at 79 and later moved to 91 ,My mother was born at that house 1912 , my GP bought the in Hatton hill,and my Uncle George became the tenant of 91 till sometime during ww2,

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Posted by Norma <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Norma' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 15:57:15, in reply to "Old photo of Sefton Road"

Could the shop be the one where jean would get her Dads cigarette from,run by 2 elderly ladies,my Uncle went in there for sweets as a school boy,they served tea etc for the lorry drivers,

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Posted by Ronnie <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Ronnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 18:51:43, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

Mrs Burn's shop (Ada) was at number 43.

49 and 51 was the old Trades and Labour Club, which became a dry cleaners.

Those houses/shops were still there in 1968 when we moved to Michell Crescent.

The dry cleaners closed, and later was set on fire with someone living rough in it who died from the his burns.

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Posted by Norma <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Norma' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 27/1/2025, 9:53:19, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

School friends aunty lived at at 45 and,remeber the people at 47 moving to a new built house,just past the cemetery,

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Posted by Norma <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Norma' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2025, 9:11:32, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

Did the labour club move down Sefon rd, my Aunt and Uncle bought a house maybe third house down from school lane,would have been next door put one to the labour club,

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Posted by Jean <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Jean' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2025, 23:48:55, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

Yes Norma.

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Posted by Eileen <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Eileen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 18:47:48, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

The shop was owned by Wlliam Hampson and then by his son in law John Jeffers until at least 1939 as he is a shopkeeper at 49 in that census. I've sent a photo and census returns to Ronnie and I hope he'll put them on the post. You mention the lorry drivers, they could be the people that tookover No 51 as they worked for a meat importer.

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I think it was just delivery men,My uncle Jim would tell his daughter she coulds have her wedding reception there,not really she had it in the Queen hotel in Crosby,I was about 10 years old went down the beach in my long bridesmaid dress

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Posted by Ronnie <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Ronnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 19:35:44, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"
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upload image to link

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Posted by Eileen <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Eileen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 20:33:31, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"

Hi Ronnie would you have any ideas why the children all dressed up were having their photo taken?

1905 Gores

Posted by Ronnie <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Ronnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 19:58:59, in reply to "Re: Old photo of Sefton Road"
Board Owner

From my 1905 Gores

Sefton Road was renumbered after 1905 and before 1911

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Posted by Norma <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/litherland-ford/info/user=Norma' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/1/2025, 21:23:31, in reply to "1905 Gores"

My parent lived at 75 sefton rd at 73 Miss Rimmer local school teacher, I thought a married couple live there but an older cousin said she lived alone,I remember her dying and a Mr and Mrs Mac Donald moving in,

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