Fanin, ready to concede that beer yet?

Posted by Figs on July 14, 2020, 10:11 pm

And remember- we don't really know how many people have truly died from Covid.

Posted by Lex on July 14, 2020, 10:52 pm, in reply to "Fanin, ready to concede that beer yet?"

Sure, the right has been more responsible than assumed

Posted by Fanin on July 15, 2020, 9:09 am, in reply to "Fanin, ready to concede that beer yet?"

Only a 1/3 of the country supports Trump on this and Biden has gained support from older Americans. Iirc the 230k was based on a fuller reopening? Previous Message I don’t think we are getting anywhere near 200k death by the end of July. Much less the 230k you article was saying. you have to accept reality. it was stolen but there is no way to prove it.

Here is what I want to see...

Posted by Tactical on July 15, 2020, 12:05 pm, in reply to "Fanin, ready to concede that beer yet?"

great call.

Posted by arthurkirkland on July 15, 2020, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Here is what I want to see..."

ive thought the same, and i suspect there is a reason we are not seeing data presented in that context. of course, if theres no evidence of a spike, the corona people credit the measures. its a neat trick. but yes, would absolutely be useful data to have. Previous Message respiratory illness deaths for each of the past 5 years. We should see a major spike in 2020. Why is no one showing us this data?

Is there a worldwide conspiracy against Trump?*

Posted by Fanin on July 15, 2020, 2:13 pm, in reply to "great call."

Previous Message ive thought the same, and i suspect there is a reason we are not seeing data presented in that context. of course, if theres no evidence of a spike, the corona people credit the measures. its a neat trick. but yes, would absolutely be useful data to have. Previous Message respiratory illness deaths for each of the past 5 years. We should see a major spike in 2020. Why is no one showing us this data? you have to accept reality. it was stolen but there is no way to prove it.

I bet we see more of these articles

Posted by Xar on July 15, 2020, 2:34 pm, in reply to "Fanin, ready to concede that beer yet?"

https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/more-washington-coronavirus-deaths-ruled-non-covid-19-related/281-f198cd91-03f8-413a-9870-1e8ea02ddd0e Previous Message I don’t think we are getting anywhere near 200k death by the end of July. Much less the 230k you article was saying.

There have been articles about undercounts...

Posted by Fanin on July 15, 2020, 2:48 pm, in reply to "I bet we see more of these articles"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html Previous Message https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/more-washington-coronavirus-deaths-ruled-non-covid-19-related/281-f198cd91-03f8-413a-9870-1e8ea02ddd0e Previous Message I don’t think we are getting anywhere near 200k death by the end of July. Much less the 230k you article was saying. you have to accept reality. it was stolen but there is no way to prove it.

There is definately a media conspiracy...

Posted by Tactical on July 15, 2020, 6:09 pm, in reply to "Is there a worldwide conspiracy against Trump?*"

"excess deaths" This is probably due to...

Posted by Tactical on July 15, 2020, 6:11 pm, in reply to "There have been articles about undercounts..."

Here is a related article...

Posted by Tactical on July 15, 2020, 6:39 pm, in reply to ""excess deaths" This is probably due to..."

Seems the world has to be on it too, as no world leader is

Posted by Fanin on July 15, 2020, 9:17 pm, in reply to "There is definately a media conspiracy..."

Shitting the bed like Don on this. Previous Message They create the narrative. Add in (1) opportunist democrats, (2) incompetent weak-willed Republicans, and (3) a large section of the population that can't critically think...and you have 2020 you have to accept reality. it was stolen but there is no way to prove it.

The thread is gone, but my recollection

Posted by Figs on July 15, 2020, 10:21 pm, in reply to "Sure, the right has been more responsible than assumed"

Was that the language was pretty vague on exactly what they were basing their 230k on. Anyway, bottom line was under 200k, you owe me a beer if we ever find ourselves in the same zip code. I think we can agree that I won this round. Previous Message Only a 1/3 of the country supports Trump on this and Biden has gained support from older Americans. Iirc the 230k was based on a fuller reopening? Previous Message I don’t think we are getting anywhere near 200k death by the end of July. Much less the 230k you article was saying.

This may help...

Posted by Stifler on July 16, 2020, 7:48 am, in reply to "Here is what I want to see..."

https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/statements/2017/flu/en/ Previous Message respiratory illness deaths for each of the past 5 years. We should see a major spike in 2020. Why is no one showing us this data?

Anyone else recall when Trump shut down China travel in January

Posted by Tactical on July 16, 2020, 10:04 am, in reply to "Seems the world has to be on it too, as no world leader is"

and got called a racist for it? No other country has the same rights as the United States. Those rights need to be respected. Previous Message Shitting the bed like Don on this. Previous Message They create the narrative. Add in (1) opportunist democrats, (2) incompetent weak-willed Republicans, and (3) a large section of the population that can't critically think...and you have 2020