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Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Lloyd McKissick on June 17, 2024, 6:28 pm

Back on face, wood repaired & re-checkered, tubes honed to perfection. It's off to a Vintagers shoot this coming Sunday, and perhaps on birds this coming Fall. The bamboo rod showed up today as well, a W&M Granger Stream and Lake 8642.

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Lloyd McKissick on June 17, 2024, 6:53 pm, in reply to "Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

2-bar or 3-bar, Dr. Drew?

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Wade Copeland on June 17, 2024, 7:58 pm, in reply to "Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

Hello,

It's nice to see such a thoughtful preservation of a high-condition gun, enjoy it !!!

Wade Copeland

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Drew Hause on June 18, 2024, 6:29 am, in reply to "Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"
Edited by board administrator June 18, 2024, 8:02 am

Nice job on the contrast. It's 2 Rod "Good Damascus"
A wavy 'zipper' weld down the middle of a scroll between 2 straight ribband edge welds

Another clue is the size of the 'scrolls'. If they are that big, it is almost surely 2 Iron.

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Lloyd McKissick on June 18, 2024, 9:49 am, in reply to "Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

Dr. Drew:

Thank you for that. Twist is easy to identify for me, as is laminated steel. The hard one for me to distinguish is the difference between 2-bar and 3-bar Damascus. Since the 3-bar tubes were generally used on the more-expensive stuff, I generally presume that is what I'm looking at on a higher-grade gun, especially when the scrolls are smaller.

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Lloyd McKissick on June 18, 2024, 10:02 am, in reply to "Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

As a follow-on, so...you're counting the "zipper welds" between the "straight-edge" welds as well? That would explain a lot about the process used to make them, now wouldn't it? And accordingly, two zipper-welds per riband would necessarily mean 3-bars were used. Interesting, I think that's been the missing piece for me.

Excellent explanation Sir. Thank you yet again.

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Lloyd McKissick on June 18, 2024, 10:10 am, in reply to "Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

Mr. Copeland:

Thank you for that! This gun came from a good home, so I (well, Terry Nicholson) had alot to work with.

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Drew Hause on June 18, 2024, 12:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

Always fun 'talking' damascus Lloyd

The long version is here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zMmG-80ZUWwiLDbjBNk-wiOdDxKrhQL6jMNs5L2XVfc/edit

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by Lloyd Mckissick on June 29, 2024, 8:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

I shoot this hammergun better than the two earlier hammerless guns (1890 & 1891) I own. It simply fits me better. Hard to justify having 3 heavy 12s just to shoot targets with. A good problem to have I suppose.

Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again

Posted by David Michno on July 12, 2024, 8:13 am, in reply to "Re: Grade F Hammer SN 88787 rides again"

Nice to see the old girl back in action. Very nice

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