I think it's just levels isn't it. The pessimists refuse to get carried away on the back of last seasons European form since he's come in and are quick to go back to the 'I told you so' routine the first sign of a blip. And unless we win a trophy, they will always eventually proved to be right.

On the other hand, acting like you're 'utterly utterly unarsed' is just an outright lie or you're not an evertonian.

Just lastly on moyes, we've been here before, we all know his pitfalls and last night was a classic! But I've no doubt he is the right man for the job at this moment in time and he will get us back into Europe, either this season or next.

Comparing him to Dyche is miles off.