I think there may only be one Democrat on here who condones what the democrats did last night in regard to those honored by Trump
I think MG may have teared up a bit when the thirteen year old cancer patient was made an honorary member of the secret service.
I think Soccer more than likely thought it was pretty awesome that a young man was awarded a position at West Point.
I think even my old rival Dee felt proud when Trump announced the mastermind of Abbey Gate bombing was on his way to justice and hopefully capital punishment here in the states.
I think all three felt compassion for the moms who lost children to illegal animals. Compassion doesn’t know party lines.
I truly believe these three good souls understand the importance to young female athletes to keep their playing field level and fair by not allowing pretend girls to infiltrate.
So in fairness, I think the extreme left who showed their asses last night may have even dented their reputation with fair minded and compassionate voters. If I’m wrong about these three I’m disappointed and somewhat sad. If they felt sitting for those recognized was appropriate or the actions of Rep Greene shaking his cane as he was booted out was not an embarrassment to the party, I would have lost money on a bet.
State of the Unions haven’t been about the country for a long time. They are an attempt by the winning side to maintain momentum, especially the first one.
So that’s my take on the difference between a true Democrat and this new left wing liberal bunch.Promises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
Drill Baby Drill
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Rootsniners on March 5, 2025, 9:43 am, in reply to "To Be Fair"
Opi, I have to respectfully disagree, these same folks for 4 years sat back and watched Brandon and Kamala literally destroy our border and economy and didn’t complain or say a damn word against any of it. Today they get on here and spew their party talking points, or simply blame everything on Trump and MAGA (TDS). I have not heard any of them come on here and provide any Biden accomplishments from the past 4 years, why because there are none, zero. They were in charge for 4 years and accomplished ZERO for the American people, with the exception of an inflated economy and unsecured border. Not that it matters, but have literally no respect for any of them. Most of the time I just pass over their post. Them supporting and voting for Brandon/Kamala tells me all I need to know. "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by opinionated on March 5, 2025, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
I agree with their stance on Biden/Harris. How anyone can say the last four years was a success is beyond me.
I do think, in regard to those recognized last night that these three folks would not support the childish acts we witnessed last night. If they do, I will be shocked.Promises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
Drill Baby Drill
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Joe Smith on March 5, 2025, 10:04 am, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Rootsinners, exactly. They may want to cheer for a few things he said, but they can't because Trump said them. Opi knows these people on the side, I think, so he both sides it a lot and tries to pacify them. In return, they tolerate him. They would toss him in the dumpster like the Democrats did Biden if they thought it would help promote the agenda they want to push.
My opinion is eff these people, but Pillow is sometimes amusing. The others can well you know, and I'm sure they feel the exact same way about me and I wouldn't have it any other way. But I have to admit, MG did give us this great heads up before the election and told us Kamala would win Illinois.The Cockroaches are mad because Elon turned the lights on.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Joe Smith on March 5, 2025, 10:07 am, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
They sat on their hands, and they damn sure DID NOT stand and applaud. These in here would have done the same damn thing.The Cockroaches are mad because Elon turned the lights on.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Soccer on March 5, 2025, 12:23 pm, in reply to "To Be Fair"
Opi - you are fair and you are correct. We watched the first part of Trump's address intently, but at some point we muted it as one of our kids who has no fear decided he could dive from the couch to a far away chair...he did a face plant on hardwood floors.. he's fine, Mrs Soccer is great at deciding what requires an ER visit and what doesn't.
We recorded the entire speech so I'll go back and watch bits and pieces. As much as I hate the majority of what Trump does it doesn't change my humanity and the way I feel about stories like you referred to. If none of the Dems stood or clapped for those individual stories that's sad, but I can't help but wonder if the script were flipped the outcome wouldn't have been similar.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Soccer on March 5, 2025, 12:29 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Rootsniner - your respect is not something I need or would ever strive for. My posts reflect my values, opinions, and the truth when lies are repeated and I can prove differently.
It seems you would prefer a discussion board where everyone agreed with your views and it was merely a sounding board for one sided positions.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Millgirl on March 5, 2025, 12:47 pm, in reply to "To Be Fair"
Opie
You correct I have compassion for all the families who were honored last night. I did not not agree with Democrats not standing for those honored. I do not agree with the radical element within the party.
I am fairly sure you feel the same about those on the right who are extreme.
I respect your views even when we agree to disagree.
We would be a better society if more people attempted to find common ground instead of hate for those who hold a different perspective.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Rootsniners on March 5, 2025, 1:29 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Oh you’re the last person I give two shits about respecting me. By the way I’m still waiting on that list of Brandon and the Ho’s 4 years of accomplishments? Here let me help you:
Unsecured the Border Runaway Inflation spending Destroyed the Economy Weaponized the FBI and DOJ Lied about Hunter Laptop Politicized the MSM and Facebook Removed Classified documents from the Congressional Skiff Hid his mental incapacities Pardoned his treasonous son and Administration Abandon Millions of dollars of military equipment Got soldiers killed in Afghan Military Withdrawal debacle
This what you all voted for!!!
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by opinionated on March 5, 2025, 1:49 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Glad to hear because has you and soccer applauded that nonsense I may just become a Joe Smuth 2.0.Promises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
Drill Baby Drill
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Soccer on March 5, 2025, 2:26 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
You don't deserve any of my attention bud.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Joe Smith on March 5, 2025, 4:22 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Rootsniners, you forgot his greatest accomplishment and one that I admired the most. He showed his great sense of humor when he sh** all over the Vatican.The Cockroaches are mad because Elon turned the lights on.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Joe Smith on March 5, 2025, 4:24 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Well, we have Leo 2.0, so I guess it's possible.The Cockroaches are mad because Elon turned the lights on.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Joe Smith on March 5, 2025, 4:40 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
In a world of Democrats too partisan to stand for even a kindhearted moment honoring a cancer kid, be Laura Gillan.
Laura is a Democrat who managed to be kind enough (or savvy enough) to know it really is OK to cheer for the cancer kid, even if it's Trump telling his story.
You know damn well these people are crucifying her today, because that's what they do. Save yourself Laura.The Cockroaches are mad because Elon turned the lights on.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Bluangel on March 5, 2025, 4:51 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
That’s jaw dropping funny.
Your entire Democratic representation last night was nothing but a huge collective of rage and hate.
Anyone know what the hell Pelosi chews on all the time?
Everything, everything, President Trump has accomplished this far and proposes to do onward will benefit the American people and our country.
Jasmine Crockett makes AOC look like Margaret Thatcher.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by 3Dee on March 5, 2025, 4:52 pm, in reply to "To Be Fair"
To be fair....
I made better use of my time last night. I had to do this ugly four letter word thing.....spelled W-O-R-K .. and I'm glad I had a meeting to take the place of whatever that was last night.
Once upon a time, I would have said being lied to is a pet peeve of mine, but now I almost expect just about any narrative (from anyone) will have grains of truth and grains of embellishment. I just come to expect it anymore. As long as the goal is not to harm anyone else, I let it go, believing some degree of what people tell me and looking the rest open to another side of the story. Most people just want to make themselves look good, and as long as it it's not at someone else's expense, let them spin a tale.
Those types of people, I can still love as family and as friends as long as their lies do no real harm. Prop yourself up if you'd like, but don't knock anyone down, or I really will lose confidence and respect in people.
But I can also shield myself from the most extreme versions of dishonesty and lack of integrity that does do real harm to a nation of people, especially when the lie is TRUMPED up with the halls of Congress as a backdrop.
I just will not give into political theatrics. It's not even worth the effort of anger.
Hate, requires effort, and it requires a certain passion. Trump is not even worth hating. My ears can select better notes than those that come from his jagoff mouth.
I feel for the people that Trump propped up to support his lies, for the express purpose of manufacturing a gotcha moment for his pundits, to keep the weak minded convinced that he is legitimate. I feel for all who wasted their time, when those hours could have been spent in better pursuits.
I have too much else to be concerned about than to sit through that. Being lied to as an act of personal embellishment is one thing, manufactured theatrics to support a lie...I have better use of my time.
It won't be long that the first Republican to stop clapping for him will be marched out with the Democrats that he calls by name as traitors. Maybe he'll even learn to puff on a cigar to mimic the theatrics of one of his other heroes.
Trump likes political theatrics, and I'm glad you were entertained. Now don't you wish you had your evening back?
With the exception of a few proud patriots who chose USA over Trump, I am here to remind you 'This is what you voted for!' And.... Foxtrot Delta Tango
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by 3Dee on March 5, 2025, 8:23 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
I'm pretty sure Opinionated knows no one on the side.
We've bantered for over 15 years, never knowing who the other is.
Everyone i thought could be Opinionated is no longer with us, but Opinionated still lives on.
I think the difference between Opinionated and the trolls who support Trump is that Opinionated is part of a community of posters, among whom political views are only one aspect of a person's life.
That's what real life is like for non-trolls, that people still have other things in common besides how they see things politically.
In the life of non-trolls, family members still get along, people maintain friendships, and people even have to share workspaces with people whom they disagree.
Somehow, they can do that.
It has nothing to do with Opinionated knowing the people with whom he disagrees.
It's just that (most of) the people who tend to dislike all things Trump also happen to be non-Trolls.
It's getting harder to make a case for those who see Trump as legitimate for anything to be taken seriously, but persist we must.
I understand, it's tough to shed pride and admit you made a mistake.
Hey, I voted for Baby Bush once....it's okay. We all make mistakes. With the exception of a few proud patriots who chose USA over Trump, I am here to remind you 'This is what you voted for!' And.... Foxtrot Delta Tango
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by opinionated on March 5, 2025, 9:36 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
I will take that as a compliment right up to the last part. LOLPromises Made, Promises Kept! Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.
Drill Baby Drill
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Bluangel on March 5, 2025, 10:24 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Whoa!
“trolls who support Trump”
Who you calling “trolls”, troll?
Seriously, 3Dee … I don’t think we have ever agreed on anything, but never have we name called.
I’ve been here at this forum longer than you. There hasn’t been a true to life and definition of a troll in this forum for a very, very long time.Jasmine Crockett makes AOC look like Margaret Thatcher.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by 3Dee on March 5, 2025, 11:20 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
I didn't use a word that universally applied to everyone in a certain category.
Maybe you're able to embrace people who think, look, act, love differently than you do just fine.
Maybe you too have people in your family that you still love unconditionally no matter what.
Maybe you too have interests outside of what Trump and his support machine tell you to think.
That's great if you do and if you do, you're far from a troll and I'll be the first to say so. With the exception of a few proud patriots who chose USA over Trump, I am here to remind you 'This is what you voted for!' And.... Foxtrot Delta Tango
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Bluangel on March 5, 2025, 11:22 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
We’re good. Jasmine Crockett makes AOC look like Margaret Thatcher.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Soccer on March 5, 2025, 11:37 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Opi knows these people on the side, I think, so he both sides it a lot and tries to pacify them. In return, they tolerate him. They would toss him in the dumpster like the Democrats did Biden if they thought it would help promote the agenda they want to push.
All this proves is how totally off the mark you are on most everything. I've never met Opi or any poster on this board...(as far as I know, but it's doubtful). You just can't tolerate anyone who is not 100 percent in lock step with everything you believe or spout off about. Insecure much?
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Bluangel on March 6, 2025, 12:08 am, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Here is a question for you, Joe Smoth came into this room in 2022, you came in 2023.
Why do you refer to him as some other name like Wally or something?Jasmine Crockett makes AOC look like Margaret Thatcher.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Soccer on March 6, 2025, 1:02 am, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Wally Joe? I've been reading off and on much longer than I've been posting.
Re: To Be Fair
Posted by Bluangel on March 6, 2025, 12:12 pm, in reply to "Re: To Be Fair"
Oh no, you can’t watch that! Jasmine Crockett told you not to.Jasmine Crockett makes AOC look like Margaret Thatcher.