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A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 8:35 pm

For Hunter.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

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Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 8:50 pm, in reply to "A full and unconditional pardon"

This man pledged to the Country that he would not do that.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 9:04 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I'm glad he did. I have no doubt had he run and won he would not have done it, because of that promise.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 9:17 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

So it’s okay to lie as long as there’s good reason? Personally I would have never gone on record of saying that, knowing my son was a worthless POS. There’s still that cocaine thing at the WH that was never solved. Maybe it will be now and some Trumped up charges will surface. LOL.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 9:21 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Hunter was the bag man for the Biden crime family’s business of shaking down foreign oligarchs for cash in exchange for government favors. Of course, he pardoned him, and had he won he still would have pardoned him, just maybe a little bit further down the road. After all it's not exactly though Hunter doesn't have the goods on his Demented daddy.

I am not even disappointed by this, really, after tomorrow I hope its never brought up again.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 9:24 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Biden will now go down in history to pardon a Thanksgiving turkey and a jackass in the same week.

It’s ok. We knew he would do it and it sets the table for a Trump pardon.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 9:30 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

JEAN-PIERRE: It's still a no, it's still a no.

REPORTER: Will it always be no?

JEAN-PIERRE: It's still a no, it will be a no, it is a no, and I don't have anything else to add. Will he pardon his son? No.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 9:47 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I feel sorry for JP. She’s had to cover for a guy who didn’t know what he was saying half the time.

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Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 10:20 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Opi - don't put words in my mouth. Biden is no longer going to be in office. If he had won the election I don't think he would have gone back on his word.

Trump plans to pardon as many Jan 6 thugs as possible. This is Biden's only living son. Good for him.

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 10:25 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Like the table needed to be set... come on, Trump will pardon anyone for anything if they have kissed his a** and showed him undying loyalty.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 10:55 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I knew it, Joe going back on his promise is Trump's fault for what he will do in the future.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 11:13 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

If he had won the election why wouldn’t he have done the same thing? Yes his only living son because the other so. Was killed in combat. Another lie. They all lie.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 11:15 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Now Trump can grant his own pardon.

Promises Made, Promises Kept!
Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.

Drill Baby Drill

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 11:21 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

The lawfare is unraveling.

Fetterman Calls Out His Unhinged Party Over Anti-ICE Stance, Dunks All Over Mamdani.

10 years, thats making a whole lot of stuff go away.

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2024, 11:47 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

And he backdated it 10 years because he knew exactly how far back to go. Let's be honest, what Joe is essentially doing here is pardoning himself.

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Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 12:01 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Eactly Opi, You know how Joe's mind was. He forgot that he said that he wouldn't pardon Hunter. Therefore, he didn't really lie - he just forgot.

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:18 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Trump has vowed to come after his political enemies and that includes anyone related to Biden...probably anyone who didn't believe the 2020 election was stolen from him. He's trying to slot only cabinet folks and now the FBI with loyalists.

I think if Biden were reelected he wouldn't have gone back on his word. Who cares now if Republicans are horrified by this. Trump is a felon, a liar, and we'll see how his tariffs "fixes" the economy.

I think it's only a matter of time before Donny Jrs coke habit is exposed.

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Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 5:20 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Hunter will be back on abusing cocaine and his other twisted addictions.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:17 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I know he likes 12-year-old Asian girls. His GF is pretty cute though so maybe she has weened him off of that bad habit. She's way out of his league, but you know with all the shady influence peddling he did for the big guy, that he has plenty of money.

I wish that Joe would have at least forced Hunter to admit the cocaine at the Whitehouse was his. For that sweetheart deal, that's the least he could have done.

There is no sense in getting mad over this, I think its funny as hell.

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Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:24 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

So if Biden believes politics infected the prosecution of his son while his administration is in charge, then certainly he believes the same is true in regard to Trumps prosecution?

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:52 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

His son actually committed real crimes. Trump's so-called crimes were drummed up, and of course, he knows that he can't admit it. The lawfare is unravelling however, soon it will be just another nasty smudge on the Demented one's resume.

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Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 7:51 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

It’s interesting this pardon goes back to 2014.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 8:26 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I guess Trump feels getting even is just the thing to do. Personally I would pardon my kid. I just wouldn’t be stupid or senile enough to never say never.

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Posted by 3Dee <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=3Dee' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 11:55 am, in reply to "A full and unconditional pardon"

Trump 34

Biden 0
Son of Biden 1

Just wait until the animals who stormed the capital are pardoned.

With the rulings of the supreme court...and the peoples' lack of reason in their election choices...

Justice is a joke....

The weight of the law will rest on the poor and defenseless and those who can buy their way out....will.

Everything I said in my post above. And.... Foxtrot Delta Tango

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Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 12:12 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

This move by Biden shows why the capital was stormed. This is a snapshot of the corruption of DC for decades.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by Millgirl <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Millgirl' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:06 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

You are correct 3D

The right was fine with Trump pardoning Kushner's father and all his pals who were involved with Russia...now they are outraged...LOL
Just show how they have have two sets of standards..Patel as well as Trump have vowed to go after Hunter Biden as revenge. Joe did what any father would do.

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Posted by warrior hockey mom <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=warrior+hockey+mom' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:32 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

When did Trump say he would not pardon Kushner's father? This is not the same. Biden on more than one occasion said he would not do this. He lied but it's ok because if he would have won he wouldn't have done this. Oh ok.

Excuses are made when Dems lie but you all freak out when it's Trump. Yep 2 sets of standards for sure.

Be who you are and say what you feel..because those that matter don't mind..and those that mind..don't matter.

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Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:43 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

So the logic from Biden is as follows:

The charges and convictions of his son in the weapons cases and tax cases were politically motivated so he pardoned his son to protect him from these politically motivated cases. OK. Let’s accept that for the sake of argument.

How does that explain pardoning him in a blanket fashion for the last 10 years for any crime he might have committed regarding the laptop, etc. How exactly does that make sense? There are no current cases pending and no ability to conclude any improper political motivation for charges and cases that don’t yet exist.

What Biden is really saying is I know my son is guilty of crimes he’s not yet been charged and I want to deter anyone looking into them any further as I won’t like what they find. And if they do find it, or better yet, they already have it but haven’t prosecuted him, Biden is getting out in front of it and putting an end to it.

Can’t make this stuff up!! The Democrats can no longer say Trump is the threat to Democracy, that’s for sure. Biden just hit it out of the park.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:45 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Kay, don't tell me you still believe the Russia collusion story? That has already been debunked as manufactured by Hillary, Intel spooks and others.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:45 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

peoples' lack of reason in their election choices..

Just because their reasoning doesn't align with yours Dee, doesn't mean theirs aren't just as valid.

Border security will be improved.
Law and order and the backing of police will once again be a rule.
Billions spent in foreign wars will be reduced while hard core negotiating will bring peace to those war-torn regions.
Foreign policy will reflect what's best for the U.S. and we won't be looked on like the weak nation we became under this crew.

Yes, in your view the wrong guy won. You'll have to deal with it like we did the last four years. Nothing you or anyone else, short of liberal assassin team can do about it.

Face it, the dems put up a semi-black woman hoping she could drag in those groups of voters, and she failed miserably. In fact, according to the views of the left, she was beaten by Satan himself. So, what does that say for her and her lame-ass VP choice? It says, putting lip stick on a pig doesn't change things. People were ready for change. I know it hurts but it's the way our voting society works. Win some, lose some.

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Posted by warrior hockey mom <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=warrior+hockey+mom' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Just because their reasoning doesn't align with yours Dee, doesn't mean theirs aren't just as valid.

I think this is a part of the reason they lost. they forgot not everyone agrees with them.

Be who you are and say what you feel..because those that matter don't mind..and those that mind..don't matter.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 1:52 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

As for the pardon, I have to say with all due respect, if anyone EVER believed Biden wouldn't pardon his son, probably believed in the "grab their guns" theory. It was never going to happen.

Biden will be history in 50 days. He's done. The democrats in Congress will do their best to run interference for him in the meantime under the control of Pelosi and Obama.

Trump should make sure his Secret Service detail is well vetted and that they are much more on their toes than the crew in Pennsylvania. He's a target now more than ever and he should use caution.

Promises Made, Promises Kept!
Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.

Drill Baby Drill

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Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:06 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

If Kamala would have won, she would have pardoned Hunter, that was a deal when he stepped away as the Democratic candidate.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:17 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

That was to cover the Burisma kickbacks.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:18 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

They love making comparisons that are not even close to being the same thing.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:35 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

They very much want to grab guns and hacks like Pritzker has already begun chipping away at doing just that in this wretched state. A recent court ruling may have stalled some of his efforts recently, but the idea has not and will not die. Hitlery wanted to sue gun manufacturers and had she won she would have made inroads in doing just that. The people in Australia thought their gun rights were undeniable also, but they found out the hard way that wasn't the case so I'm not sure why some people insist the same damn thing can't happen here. There is no connection between Biden pardoning his son and the Democrats wanting to severely limit gun rights. One of those two may be an easier task, but both are very doable.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 6:59 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I see the gun grab as mission impossible. No way to recover so many legal guns let alone the street level ones.

I see it like booting the illegals . If they get the majority of the criminals who rape, kill and steal, I will see it as a success. At my age? I won’t see the end of either.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 7:06 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

The way I would work on the illegals is to just stop the money train. I agree the worst of the worst need to be a priority, but still illegal is illegal, and I would like as many of them out as possible.

Americans first.

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Posted by Millgirl <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Millgirl' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 2, 2024, 10:17 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

DW

Trump and Patel have both vowed to go after Biden and his family. By making the pardon cover 10 years that keeps them from using the DOJ to go after Hunter.
You can spin it any way you like. When you get some facts pleas post so we can all see your proof.

Re: 10 years, thats making a whole lot of stuff go away.

Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 1:28 am, in reply to "10 years, thats making a whole lot of stuff go away."

I'm not sure if I can be convinced that the Presidential pardon should be allowed. Pardoning a conviction is one thing, but pardoning people for anything they might have ever done is just not right. Might as well give the President (our protector) the power to pardon people for anything that they will do in the future. (Watch yourself Pres. elect Trump).

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

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Posted by spruce <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=spruce' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 10:46 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Just imagine If Trump would have pulled the same stunt as good old Joe did ! Democrates would be even more crazier than they are Now !

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 11:55 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Spruce - Trump did pardon his daughter's father-in-law, Jarod Kushner's father after he plead guilty to 18 counts of tax evasion and witness tampering.

He's now nominated this man to be the U.S. Ambassador to France.

If you're talking about lying, well, no one trumps Trump for continually and consistently telling lie after lie and doubling down on them when proven wrong.

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Posted by spruce <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=spruce' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 1:21 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

True, BUT I don't recall Trump saying that he would not pardon his daughter's father -in Law then turn around and pardon him . Do you ?

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 1:27 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Damn, he may as well pardon Diddy too while he's at it.

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Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 4:33 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Sorry Kay, that just doesn't make sense. 2014 was before Biden was even in the WH. It was the start of Burisma though.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 4:34 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

You are correct, he said many times he would not pardon Hunter and then went back on his word. I personally think he was motivated by Trumps mission to come after the Biden family if he were elected. He went back on his word, if you want to call that a lie, I won't argue that.

That was my second point... if you want to compare Trump and Biden on the number of lies they have told, there would be no competition.

I think with election of Trump, voters decided that politicians ARE above the law as are those that are related to them or loyal to them or have something on them. Sad, but true.

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 4:36 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

I think that was part of Millgirl's point... given the opportunity there would be no time limit on what Trump and his appointees could seek revenge on Biden and family.

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Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 4:39 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

If Diddy was smart, he would have supported Trump, sang his praises to no end, stroked his fragile ego. That would have set the stage for a Trump pardon.

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Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 6:07 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Yep, it was backdated to cover any suspected criminal activity, just in case.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 8:31 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Let's face it. We knew one way or another, Hunter was going to be pardoned.

I think the original plan was to have Kamala do it if she won. However, as we all know, she fumbled the ball inside the "red zone", no pun intended, but it is football season.

The second potential was a deal to be struck whereby Trump would pardon Hunter if and only if Biden pardoned Trump before January 20.

And finally, as a fire stop, we had to know that no father, even the father of a drug and alcohol addicted schmuck, would not take the opportunity to save that son. I would.

What does it matter now? Hunter may screw up again and if not, let Sleepy Joe ride off into the sunset.

This is politics folks, not church.

Promises Made, Promises Kept!
Republicans stood, the liberal left wept.

Drill Baby Drill

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 3, 2024, 11:32 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Trump does love himself, there is no doubt about that, but no more than Barry Hussein. I still remember the Greek Temple setup at his inauguration. Clinton was pretty into himself also, so Trump isn't breaking any new ground here.

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Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 6:56 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

So why pick the year 2014?

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 11:38 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

There is no comparing the self love and fragile ego of any other politician and you know it. The scary part is he loves himself way more than he loves this country or cares about the people in it... unless they are die hard supporters who turn a blind eye to the fact that he's a convicted felon etc.

As far as pardoning family members, you know in his past term he pardoned Jarod Kushner's father, who he has now nominated as Ambassador to France.

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Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 11:47 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

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The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 11:49 am, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Hopefully, that weird as Hell clip helps you cope with your "feelings', lol.

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 12:03 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

That is for all you Hagnauer democrats.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 12:10 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Must be a MAGA thing... I have no clue who or what "Hagnauer" is. I'm a proud Democrat, thanks.

Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 12:51 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Have you ever noticed, Democrats never attack Trump on policy?? And Soccer, I consider you to be much smarter than the average dips**t Democrat walking the street, but you fall for the same tired old rhetoric that got Kamalass butt kicked for her. I thought you might join in with the Democrats who are finally saying maybe we better start looking in the mirror, but you have chosen to align with those View ninnies. Trump is an arrogant, sometimes obnoxious businessman, not a politician. But his administration wasn't the one who cared for Republicans only after a hurricane, that was the Obama-Biden Harris regime.

Biden is nothing more than a mobster, he pimped out his own son for his own monetary benefit and then cleared the deck to save not only his son but his own ass. His regime used the agencies to attack his political foes, and when they were bored PTA families and the Catholic Church. So the ya but defense is a lame one, try something else.

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Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Soccer <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Soccer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 2:35 pm, in reply to "Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon."

Joe, you have a very selective memory and choose to believe only what you want to believe. Democrats never attack Trump over policy? You aren't paying attention. My beliefs and values, love for this country and disdain for pathological liars, election deniers, egomaniacs have not changed because Trump was elected.

His poor judgement at nominating some of his cabinet members have not gone unnoticed by anyone.

We'll have to wait and see how his "policies" work out. Will his supporters be happy with only deporting criminals (which I think most Dems support) or are they expecting that every illegal to be gone with in a short amount of time?

Will his tariffs quickly bring prices down and make everything more affordable? Or will prices increase on many items because the importers will pass the cost along?

He should have already ended the war in Ukraine. If he does as promised, will the US abandon our ally and allow Putin to take over?

Trump won, the ball is in his court. I suspect any and all major missteps will be blamed on someone else, yet he'll take credit for the good which he may not have had any effect on.

You love to minimize his innumerable faults by saying he is arrogant and obnoxious and he sends out "mean tweets"... no one is falling for that crap.

Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Millgirl <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Millgirl' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 3:22 pm, in reply to "Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon."

Soccer

I agree with you 100% on all your points.
Trump's policies will play out in time. He will surround himself with those who are loyal to him. Trump could care less about the American people. It is all about him.

Time will tell us all how happy the people who elected him will be in a year or two. Prepare for what will surly be a cold war with the Trump tariffs.

Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon."

No matter who he would have picked the Democrat's job was going to be to Kavanaugh them which they are trying to do with Hegseth now by playing the unnamed sources game. Trump should have known this and if he didn't then I would have to say he's pretty stupid. Picking people to be on the inside was never a strong suit fo his, but this time I like his picks much better than his first go around.

Biden kept many of Trump's tariffs and even added a few of his own, I'm trying to remember all the Democrat outrage over that at the time, I may have missed it.

Putin didn't do any invading when Trump was 45, I'm sure you remember that, but he sure did under Obama and Biden. Coincidence, maybe, we shall see how that plays out.

Any Democrat president with 53 Senators would get an automatic 53 yes votes with every selection, Republicans have never been that way, which to me is a serious flaw. My guess now is that they will run Pete Hegseth off and then seek out someone else to smear. At this point, it's about all the Democrats have and they will use their media and un-named sources to intimidate and take down as many of Trump's choices as they can. Had Kamala won and had 53 senators none of this would be going on. Several lame both sides Republicans would rubber-stamp every one of her picks, not that they could stop them to begin with.

It is going to be like this for 4 years just like it was the last time. The Democrats care less than zero about the country, what they care about is themselves. Trump could be playing golf every day, but instead, he chose this chaos. It shows a lot of guts and a strong will, but I must admit, I'm not sure how smart it is. How many people would have survived what he has been through??? Very damn few. BTW, I still think the deep state has one more assassination attempt in them before 1/20 and I'm pretty sure I am not alone with that thought. Im sure Trump and his team are aware. It would be devastating to the country but I'm sure the Democrats after a day or two would get right back to work attacking Hitler Junior.

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Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 3:48 pm, in reply to "Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon."

Mighty fine for Joe Biden to lie his entire career though, huh?

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 3:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon."

LOL, but his policies are for the American people, that is why he was elected.

It was nice during the Trump years and will be even better, I'm thinking, with loyalist to the MAGA cause being put in place.

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon.

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 5:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Even some of Obamas insider hacks are trashing Biden on this sweeping pardon."

Why of course, because the way they get around that is to say, Well Trump would have lied even worse. That magically makes Joe's lies all go away.

Fetterman Calls Out His Unhinged Party Over Anti-ICE Stance, Dunks All Over Mamdani.

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Bluangel <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Bluangel' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 6:02 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

“The January 1, 2014, date, I don't believe, is coincidental,” Jayne told Forbes. “It overlaps with Biden's alleged involvement in Burisma. And so that may be the reason why he has that time period.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestv/2024/12/02/burisma-work-may-have-led-to-unusual-provision-in-hunter-biden-presidential-pardon-attorney/

April 21, 2014: Then-Vice President Joe Biden travels to Ukraine.

May 12, 2014 : Hunter Biden appointed to Burisma’s board of directors.

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2023/11/17/icymi-whistleblower-docs-show-burisma-hired-hunter-biden-for-his-political-weight-and-carefully-navigated-his-appointment-to-protect-joe-biden/

I speak American English, so my pronunciation sounds like, “I” RAN and “I” RACK. Carte blanche

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 4, 2024, 7:04 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

Since Joe Biden thinks a particular gun law shouldn’t be enforced for his son Hunter Biden, he should pardon everyone who’s been prosecuted under that same provision.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

Re: A full and unconditional pardon

Posted by Dave Williams <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Dave+Williams' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 5, 2024, 12:42 pm, in reply to "Re: A full and unconditional pardon"

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The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -Thomas Jefferson

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