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GC Teacher Touching Boys

Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 7:33 am

Has anyone else been following the story about Mr. Manoogian at the High School? A bunch of boys have come forward and are talking to administration about how he touched them and he would get them to touch him. When I was in HS he use to try this with me best friend. Anyone else heard about it?? Wonder if the school is trying to keep it hush hush to save face? It’s been going on for a long time. Hope he gets what he deserves.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 9:29 am, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Oh you better hope you can prove this sonny. If not, the man will own you.

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Posted by RosesAreRed <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=RosesAreRed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 10:02 am, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I heard he was suspended for touching boys. I also heard it was touching like putting his hands on their shoulders. Haven’t heard anything about it being sexual. But they must have something on him because he was suspended.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 10:57 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I don’t think I have to worry about being owned by anyone. The dude was suspended. I’ve heard conflicting stories on what all it entails but either way...let’s see how it plays out.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 10:58 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Opie, i have to give you credit, you are loyal.

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GC student94, Are you 100% sure it isnt a parent posing as a teacher??

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I don’t think I have to worry about being owned by anyone. The dude was suspended. I’ve heard conflicting stories on what all it entails but either way...let’s see how it plays out.

You should worry sonny. I'll out of retirement and represent Manoogian for free if this is an unsubstantiated rumor. You may not have anything worth owning but I'll take everything you have. Trust me.

This is the kind of crap that destroys people.

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Not a matter of being loyal. We've seen on the national stage how these unsubstantiated rumors ruin the lives of good people.

The easy question for this douchebag is if it was going on in 94, why didn't he say anything. Like I said, people should really be smarter than to say something they can't back up Wally.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 11:41 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Opie, if it isnt true, i agree with you, its a messed up thing to do to anyone. I have to wonder though were you that open minded with Kobe Bryants case, the however many Boy Scout leaders and Catholic Priests accused of hanky panky in the past?? Maybe you have been consistent all the way, but you do appear rather unhinged over this one. Im not saying i believe this rule, but arent we supposed to believe the kids??

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 11:43 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I hope you are right, but i think some shrinks have already said people that have been wronged sometimes suppress what happened to them. One way or another id like this little story gone by Sunday at the latest.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 11:47 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

First of all...I am not a boy, so you can stop calling me sonny Fact: John Manoogian has been suspended and DCFS is conducting interviews with students and officials...

Secondly...My original question was simple...had anyone else heard about this? If you want to "go after someone" then feel free..but it will have to be the multiple students and alumni that are "making this up." as you seem to think. My only personal connection to this was my friend who had a similar experience as to the ones mentioned. Clearly it has struck a nerve with you. The investigation will tell us the truth.

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You've been warned kid.

Wally, I'm aggravated every time someone is tried in the social media courtroom before any real evidence of findings are brought forth. Imagine if it was you. Maybe this kid should put himself in Manoogians shoes.

In this country we don't hang people without a trial. Shame on anyone who buys into this shit.

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Yeah, that's what they said about the hag that tried to take down our most recent supreme court justice and as I recall, you were outraged about her.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

If you are consistent, good for you. I am a firm believer of one being innocent until proven guilty, but i think more than one person has come forward with allegations. Im not necessarily buying into anything, but talking down to the young lady wont make her any more wrong or right. The betting odds on this should be about 50/50. DCFS getting involved to me however is a negative, not a positive. A more useless Government agency i have never seen.
Ive seen plenty of people tried and convicted on this very site with absolutely zero evidence of wrong doing.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 3:45 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

She was a Democrat Party hack with a bad memory from 30 years back. The ones that came out from under every rock at the same time were did so of course by design. The idea was to take Trump down by death of a thousand cuts.
I suppose you can make that comparison if you wish, with this case, its a bit of a reach though. I will stick with what i said earlier, one way or another id like this whole episode over by Sunday. If hes guilty he needs to be gone. If his accusers are guilty of some sinister plot they need to be held accountable also. Maybe mommy and daddy can pay a nice fine. I 100% do have an opinion on this case, but i will keep it to myself for now.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 4:08 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Hands on shoulders is a bit weak, IF that is the extent of it. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

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Wally if these accusations ring true, I will apologize. If they are proved false, this person made a mistake and my original post stands. We can’t assassinate a persons character.

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Posted by Millgirl1 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Millgirl1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 4:52 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I do not think anyone should post the name of anyone who is accused of this type of behavior. EVER..As far as the teacher on suspension, proves nothing...I would think that would be the school policy, until after something of this nature is investigated...If the person is proved guilty and someone feels the need to post a name, that would be the time...

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Exactly millgirl.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 5:21 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

No need to apologize because in the end it doesnt matter what any of us on here think anyway.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 5:24 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I cant disagree on that, but thats not the world we live in today.

Biden is touchy touchy with kids

Posted by Riverbender <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Riverbender' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 6:03 pm, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

but he is a Democrat so in places like Granite...it is excused.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 6:30 pm, in reply to "Biden is touchy touchy with kids"

Actually, i think i would excuse hands on the shoulder, that seems pretty innocent.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 6:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Biden is touchy touchy with kids"

From either Biden or a teacher.

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Posted by bob <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=bob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 11:31 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Yes, by mentioning his name, the seed has been planted that there must be something to it. That'll be with him the rest of his life, even if he's proven completely innocent. "Remember when he was accused of touching boys?"

If you don't read the papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. - Mark Twain

Lets see how it plays out before assigning innocence or guilt.

Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 3, 2020, 11:45 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Its probably not the way id like the story to develop but i dont know what other sources are saying about this if anything. I dont want to downplay it, i just want it settled one way or another ASAP.

Re: Lets see how it plays out before assigning innocence or guilt.

Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 7:39 am, in reply to "Lets see how it plays out before assigning innocence or guilt."

"Other Sources" CNN lead in to every news story .

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 10:17 am, in reply to "Re: Lets see how it plays out before assigning innocence or guilt."

I was thinking local. LOL

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 5:26 pm, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

This is second hand, but i just heard the teacher got the ax. If that is the case, i hope he was guilty of being at least inappropriate. Guilty people do get a way with things, but that works the other way sometimes also.

With a full pension?

Posted by Riverbender <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Riverbender' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 8:24 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

the usual way

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 9:26 pm, in reply to "With a full pension?"

He may have resigned but according to the school code, he has to be dismissed at a meeting of the board of education by a majority vote of the members. We shall see.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 9:38 pm, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

GCstudent94, i think you can relax, i dont think you are going to be getting owned. It probably would be a good idea in the future though not to name names, just to be safe, let someone else do it.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 4, 2020, 9:57 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Agreed.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 5, 2020, 7:51 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Very good advice Wally. Glad he/she sees the error of her ways.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 12, 2020, 7:40 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Did anybody hear an update on this situation? I am just curious at this point. Since the COVID-19 stuff happened around the same time, this seems to have been brushed over.

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Posted by Wally Bunker <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Wally+Bunker' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 12, 2020, 10:50 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

An accusation does not mean guilt, or its not supposed to anyway. Ive heard a few things, but who knows? Its a helluva thing to be accused of if the person is not guilty.

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Posted by Miss Priss <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Miss+Priss' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 6:51 pm, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

What was that you were saying?

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 7:37 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Yeah no kidding. I didn't post anything else because I was waiting to see how it played out. Honestly, I thought maybe it had all gone quiet and they were just rumors. I knew better..because I work for a government agency that deals with these cases...however, I hadn't heard much recently. Good to know that he is "not getting away with it" and there was at least enough to arrest/prosecute.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 7:39 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Just saying....

numbers remove duplicates

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When my son started high school I told him he wasnt allowed to take drama because of this guy. I also told him to avoid him at all costs. That was 3 years ago. Everyone knew. They just kept it quiet.

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Posted by Palin 2024 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Palin+2024' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 9:03 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

You knew about this three years ago and didn’t report it?

What was your incentive to keep this quiet?

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Your kidding? Everyone knew. Teachers administration. It's been silenced. Dont start with me and that bull. Do some research. Boys are coming forward on comments on facebook at this very moment.

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I don’t trust social media as a news source.

Three years is a long time to sit on such information.

Did you ever contact the police?

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Contact police because I thought he was a creep. Ok

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If I had it on good authority that such malfeasance was occurring, you bet your bippy I’d involve the appropriate authorities.

Pity you didn’t.

Who were the central figures in this coverup?

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 10:17 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

to be clear...this is not the first time he was accused of these offenses. This is the first time he was indicted, but locals absolutely knew about this. It was brought to previous administrations attention at the school and briefly investigated prior to being swept under the rug.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 10:38 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Good point Palin. If people had proof three years ago and did not come forward, they are possibly guilty of complicity. Might be interesting.

Either way, if the instructor is found to be guilty, he deserves whatever the law allows. However, an indictment is not a conviction for those who didn't do so well in Civics.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 10:39 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

It was brought to previous administrations attention at the school and briefly investigated prior to being swept under the rug.

Which administration was it brought to? They could also be in trouble legally. Do you have specific names that it was reported to?

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This. This whole thread is why people do not speak up.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 10:50 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I do not and I do not know details of how far it went. At this point, the primary focus should be on ensuring that he is charged to the fullest extent of the law and put away upon being found guilty.

The former administration are all practically retired or no longer in office at this point. It appears the current administration did what was necessary and a year long investigation has found enough evidence to move forward.

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Posted by GCstudent94 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GCstudent94' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 10:53 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

You are correct, an indictment is NOT a conviction. However, and indictment from a grand jury does mean that enough evidence has been presented for a confident case to be presented. State's Attorney's offices do not usually pursue these particular cases after an investigation unless there is one heck of a case.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 10:58 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

GC Student, I said a year ago that if your accusations were substantiated that I would apologize and I do. I know he hasn't been tried and convicted but at least you were correct about the accusations or an indictment wouldn't have been issued.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 11:01 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

This whole thread is why people do not speak up.

That's a crock. People don't speak up because they either don't have proof or they are cowards. Anyone who knew this was happening (if it's proven to have happened) contributed to it going on longer than it had to.

That's a plain and simple fact. I do applaud those who stepped to the plate now. Justice can't be served unless a public is willing to participate in the process.

And this is not the first case of an educator violating the trust of the public and students. It's happened in districts near us as well as this one.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 25, 2021, 11:02 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Which is why I apologized to you in the above post.

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Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 26, 2021, 1:20 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Wow, it just doesnt get any better than that.

Let me be wrong and then later talk down to you about not doing more about what i was wrong about. I like it, i like it a lot. That isnt just good sound Granite City logic, you can take that anywhere in the world at anytime and be a star.

All kidding aside i can see both sides here, although accusing a teacher of some sort of sexual misconduct isnt quite the same as bitching that football players have special privileges that other students dont have. Some people do not feel comfortable being put in the position of being told that they better be right. That was a true statement BTW you better damn well be right.

Just stop saying that you did you're research before getting the vaccine, because you are the research.

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Posted by Hard Core <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Hard+Core' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 26, 2021, 5:06 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

This is classic "People don't speak up because they either don't have proof or they are cowards"

You spew some ignorant crap like this, and wonder why people don't speak up? Calling frightened and embarrassed children who have been victimized and sexually abused and exploited by a trusted adult (teacher) cowards, or accusing them of not having proof that they were victimized, is the EXACT reason these kids do stay silent.

Can you imagine the amount of courage it took for these kids to come forward and tell an adult they were victimized by this man? Can you imagine the embarrassment and possible guilt or shame they may be dealing with? That's what these child molesters do, they groom and condition these kids to keep their mouths shut.

I hope none of these kids get on this site to read any of the comments you made. When people don't come forward and speak up, it is because they don't want to have to face people with your attitude. If parents or other adults were reluctant to come forward and make these accusations or claims, it is also out of fear of their children not being believed, or "lack of proof".

Sometimes Truth Hurts

Good morning from Jim Greenwald

Posted by JGreenwa <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=JGreenwa' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 26, 2021, 6:31 am, in reply to "GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I’ve read and scanned many of your messages, concerning this very serious issue. Let me make one thing perfectly clear, the school district led by me never, ever, tried to cover up or kick this, or any other past issues under the rug regarding inappropriate actions by a staff member. Once we received word of these actions they were addressed at once. Also comments were made about me “walking” during these times. I retired on June 30, 2020 and my retirement had been in the proper channels of the teachers retirement pipeline for 5 years prior to that date. My leaving had nothing to do with any issues. Those of you who know me are aware I was a tireless worker and gave the students and families of Granite City my 24/7 dedication. There was never a tough call that I didn’t take on full steam. It’s easy to take shots and make statements on these sites when people don’t really know the facts. I hope justice gets served here, and I’m sure it will. Make a great day, Jim Greenwald.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 26, 2021, 7:16 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Blow it out your ass Hard Core. I was speaking about the adult who "knew" this was going on years ago.

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Posted by Worker A <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Worker+A' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 26, 2021, 11:03 am, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

Opinionated always has excuses for the school district and the pension mess. Always has, always will.

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Adults dont want to be wrong either, sometimes even if its just that they dont want to put their own children (students) in the middle of all of it. I feel pretty confident in believing that more than one adult was not at all surprised when these allegations finally broke.

People are going to believe what they want as for as if the school was aware of what was going on and chose to punt. I think many students themselves might have a difficult time believing that but its hard to say.

Worker A, its human nature to paint a rosy picture when it benefits our own self interests. Thats never going to change and most evryone does it at one time or another.

Just stop saying that you did you're research before getting the vaccine, because you are the research.

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Posted by opinionated <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=opinionated' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 26, 2021, 1:43 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

The kids or their parents who brought this to light may have saved other kids from going through similar issues. Those people should be applauded.

IF a parent knew of this situation from their students telling them about it, shame on them for not pursuing it years ago. One poster said it was going on for several years.

We owe it to our kids to protect them and yes sometimes it involves those we think should be trusted. This situation is not the first (sadly probably not the last) that has gone on in this district. I respect justice and due process no matter who is accused. When a person is tried on public media, he/she stands the chance of being ruined for life even if proved innocent later.

Justice in our country involves the accuser, the accused and the judicial system that, while not perfect, is the best one we have. If this teacher is found guilty by a jury trial or by his own plea, justice would be for him to lose his pension and be jailed under the law.

If he is found guilty and I was a parent, I would also pursue a civil case and try to take everything from him.

Worker, it's not a matter of defending people from any one group. I have a lifelong love of our judicial system and due process. If you were on trial and being raked over the coals prior to a fair trial, I would even defend you. It's what we're supposed to be about.

Every member of the House and Senate are richer tonight because of the economy of Donald Trump. You're Welcome!

Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys

Posted by warrior hockey mom <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=warrior+hockey+mom' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 31, 2021, 2:09 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I will say this. I have 2 boys and both of my boys had issues with this man in H.S. The issues were not sexual or were not from touching but I knew something just wasn't right about him.

My oldest son never ever ever got in trouble in school. I was NEVER called by any teacher to discuss his behavior or his grades. He was an A/B student all through school. The issue I had with this man was over my sons grade in Tech Theater his senior year in H.S.

My youngest son was told by this man in Tech theater that he was a "waste of space". That prompted me to a meeting with him. NO student should EVER be told that by a teacher. I was absolutely livid over that one.

I feel for the students and the parents who are going through this. I hope if the allegations are true he is punished to the fullest extent by law. My gut told me that something about that man just wasn't right. I guess my gut might have been right

Be who you are and say what you feel..because those that matter don't mind..and those that mind..don't matter.

Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 31, 2021, 4:30 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

The girl a few houses down told me last year that she got an A when she was in his class and that he didnt really pay attention to any of the girls including her.

I think its pretty obvious that teach has a lot of splainin to do but that doesnt mean he is guilty of every other little incident that he is accused of.

IF hes guilty i dont care what they do to him really, the key word being IF.

Just stop saying that you did you're research before getting the vaccine, because you are the research.

Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys

Posted by warrior hockey mom <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=warrior+hockey+mom' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 31, 2021, 4:49 pm, in reply to "Re: GC Teacher Touching Boys"

I agree. I believe in innocent until proven guilty. I just know both my past experiences with him were not great. Thank god it was nothing inappropriate because I probably would have went to jail.lol

Be who you are and say what you feel..because those that matter don't mind..and those that mind..don't matter.

Re: Good morning from Jim Greenwald

Posted by GLW <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=GLW' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 2, 2021, 11:53 am, in reply to "Good morning from Jim Greenwald"

Hi Jim...this is as I recall it. I too retired from the school district as a maintenance carpenter some 10 years ago (in 2008)...and the school district did set me for life...I do recall you from the days when I was working and I am glad you made this post....but you will not get the people on your side on this issue.

Remember all, this is the time for all of us to get the message straight, not everyone that works for the district are "scum bags" and to judge everyone as such...just...is...not...right.

I did graduate in 1961...and I did have my problems with a teacher or two, but I do stand behind my words and to treat all as tho they are responsible for the actions of a few...is not right.

If I did have a magic wand...In would banish those responsible that are employed at the district...but unfortunately, I do not have this wand...so we must be patient.

GLW

Re: Good morning from Jim Greenwald

Posted by Joe Smith <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/GraniteGossip/info/user=Joe+Smith' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 2, 2021, 4:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Good morning from Jim Greenwald"

I think everyone wants to distance themselves from any blame in a situation like this, even to the point of doing a little bit of revisionist history if need be. I found the the bullying ordeal several years back to be almost as disturbing as this, and let us all remember that it took a report from Elliot Davis to get the wheels turning on that and finally get it under control.

Some problems do not have easy fixes and other problems can be very uncomfortable and pretty dicey. You want to react, but not over react, so a fine line sometimes does exist.

Just stop saying that you did you're research before getting the vaccine, because you are the research.

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