Very interesting point, Dr. Ray. One popular and very outspoken atheist was studying to be a minister. He was an avid Christian for 25 years. He says he wanted to be thorough in his learning so he could be the best witness for Christ as he could be. When he got into it he became an atheist. He's on YouTube one of the hosts of Atheist Experience. His name is Matt, last name escapes me...he's the heavy guy, bald head, goatee. You may want to check it out. He really is brilliant. I agree on almost everything said concerning organized religion, but I don't agree with views on other topics they nix...such as the ethereal, anything to indicate a spirit, afterlife, etc., and that's where I part with them.