Kev, no am not a teacher, yes have had friends who are, I said I have no problem with teachers making good money, so what is the problem with what I've said. You want me to name a figure, I guess I could, but what is the point. I know they have a hard job, I know they basically work year round, I know they spend time outside the class room working on material, including at their homes. I know they have to deal with a various types of children. I know the vast majority of parents now days need to get their head out of their ass and spend more time with their children. Sure there are some teachers who really should be doing something else, just like there are bus drivers who ought to be doing something else, there are mechanics who can't fix a problem only change parts until they get lucky. Enough said, ok?