I agree with you both.
As I said before, the majority of America no longer value truth, rule of law, or morals. That is why they wanted a convicted felon, name calling bully who tells them lie after lie, used fear to keep them angry at someone at all times, believes in revenge on anyone who disagrees with him. It is the new way in politics.
Those of us who were raised to believe that truth matters, laws matter, moral character matters, bulling is wrong etc. are now the minority in America.
If you still hold on to the "old values" you are now considered the enemy from within.
We will all be governed by the new set of values and will continue to have conflicts because of those differences.