Hey Bluangel! I believe Millgirl acknowledge in another post that factcheckers confirmed that Biden lied 3 or 4 times.

She also pointed out, as did I, as did everyone else not living under the MAGA spell, that Trump lied around 30 times in his 35 minutes of allotted time.

Trump's political lies began with the Obama birther LIE and he's been going strong ever since.