Another person who made and sold some copies of Framburg models was Dan Dorcy, also of Chicago. I purchased a couple of them from him at some wargame meeting in the early 1970s. I still have 2 of his HMS Revenge copies in my old wargame box. I don't know what happened to the others I bought from him. I remember one was a British cruiser, and there may have been others.
Technically speaking, the Revenge (the model I still have from him) was not a "straight" copy, but slightly modified. The 4 twin AA gun turrets had been removed, and 4 holes drilled into the upper deck and separately cast AA turrets were provided along with the 15" turrets.
As a collector of Framburg models all my life. These two terms come out like this: A Framburg model is a model made by H.A.Framkburg during WWII in Chicago, IL. A Fraamburg Copy is a model cast using a Framburg model as prototype. Primarily, these were made by Hal Reynolds of Metal Miniatures. I first bought them in about 1973 When I met Mr. Kauder (then Midshipman, USN) in San Diego and he introduced them to me. I met Hal and his family soon afterward. Great man, lovely family! If other persons ever made copies of Framburg models, other than a small number that appeared in 1970,Ihave never seen them. I don't understand why Paul doesn't acknowledge this. He knew Hal during the same time as I did back in the 1970s & beyond. I have no idea what Sammelhafen had to say about this. But, my comments are straight out of my experiences
and I didn't just read it somewhere!
So far as I am aware the vast majority of copies of Framburgs have been done by Superior (Alnavco). Framburg did not protect its copyright since it ceased production of the models after WW II, thus allowing Superior to use its models to cast their own revised versions. No doubt there may have been other small casters who made copies over the ensuing decades, but I am not aware of any large scale producer of Framburg copies other than Superior.
I also note that a number of the models, especially submarines but also several large ships, on the Sammelhafen list were never produced by Framburg, hence cannot be copies.
The Sammelhafen site shows both a Framburg and a Framburg Copy in their database. I am very familiar with the history of the long departed Framburg models, but can anyone tell me anything about the Framburg Copy manufacturer?
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