WSJ: Real estate nightmare that is St Louis downtown (long)
Posted by Potomac on April 12, 2024, 11:55:07
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say what you want about rahm, but that dude singlehandledly materially increased the odds the loop..
Posted by auto on April 15, 2024, 10:53:34, in reply to "WSJ: Real estate nightmare that is St Louis downtown (long)"
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Yep, it’s glorious
Posted by bigbop85 on April 15, 2024, 17:55:13, in reply to "say what you want about rahm, but that dude singlehandledly materially increased the odds the loop.."
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that was probably the single best urban amenity investment made by any city...
Posted by auto on April 16, 2024, 10:02:11, in reply to "Yep, it’s glorious"
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Means nothing if Dirty Dick's is gone*
Posted by fratstud on April 17, 2024, 12:51:37, in reply to "that was probably the single best urban amenity investment made by any city..."
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rahm is currently ambassador to Japan and to say that my old lady despises
Posted by fratstud on April 15, 2024, 11:59:22, in reply to "say what you want about rahm, but that dude singlehandledly materially increased the odds the loop.."
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That's a kinda correct story.
Posted by ghost_of_clt on April 12, 2024, 13:33:54, in reply to "WSJ: Real estate nightmare that is St Louis downtown (long)"
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eh, i visited for the final four in 2005...
Posted by auto on April 15, 2024, 10:56:55, in reply to "That's a kinda correct story."
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people forget that stl used to be a charming place to visit or live.
Posted by arthurkirkland on April 12, 2024, 12:51:09, in reply to "WSJ: Real estate nightmare that is St Louis downtown (long)"
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I saw a documentary once about a guy whose car had "HONKEY LIPS" spray painted on it there*
Posted by fratstud on April 12, 2024, 15:37:36, in reply to "people forget that stl used to be a charming place to visit or live."
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If I recall, there was a sign for "Rib Tips" in that area*
Posted by Mismysteri on April 12, 2024, 18:11:21, in reply to "I saw a documentary once about a guy whose car had "HONKEY LIPS" spray painted on it there*"
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Listened to several radio programs over the past few years while driving back and forth . . .
Posted by Lexillini on April 12, 2024, 12:33:56, in reply to "WSJ: Real estate nightmare that is St Louis downtown (long)" Socialism is the gospel of envy.
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No, not at all
Posted by bigbop85 on April 12, 2024, 16:13:23, in reply to "Listened to several radio programs over the past few years while driving back and forth . . . "
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"I’m pretty bullish on Chicago’s downtown"
Posted by Lexillini on April 12, 2024, 18:24:40, in reply to "No, not at all" Socialism is the gospel of envy.
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Haha!
Posted by bigbop85 on April 13, 2024, 20:00:00, in reply to ""I’m pretty bullish on Chicago’s downtown""
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Jobs + housing conversions can work
Posted by Potomac on April 12, 2024, 16:32:37, in reply to "No, not at all"
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In the same 24 hours, the WSJ *also* said StL is one of the top job markets
Posted by ghost_of_clt on April 12, 2024, 17:14:24, in reply to "Jobs + housing conversions can work"
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I'm sure it's a hot job market, no one wants to work there
Posted by kokomojo on April 13, 2024, 12:12:38, in reply to "In the same 24 hours, the WSJ *also* said StL is one of the top job markets "
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I didn't really care for that second story from April 8
Posted by Potomac on April 12, 2024, 18:19:38, in reply to "In the same 24 hours, the WSJ *also* said StL is one of the top job markets "
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I don’t know that I’d agree with that. When I visited downtown Chicago last summer…
Posted by haighter on April 12, 2024, 13:44:27, in reply to "Listened to several radio programs over the past few years while driving back and forth . . . "
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the number of downtown office workers remains about 50% of what it was pre-covid...
Posted by auto on April 15, 2024, 11:04:57, in reply to "I don’t know that I’d agree with that. When I visited downtown Chicago last summer…"
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Hit 70% a few weeks ago and has been 60-65%, solidly above the national average
Posted by bigbop85 on April 15, 2024, 17:56:39, in reply to "the number of downtown office workers remains about 50% of what it was pre-covid..."
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the metra numbers are all public and on their website.
Posted by auto on April 16, 2024, 9:50:28, in reply to "Hit 70% a few weeks ago and has been 60-65%, solidly above the national average"
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Metra has issues, for sure
Posted by bigbop85 on April 17, 2024, 8:21:34, in reply to "the metra numbers are all public and on their website."
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Supposedly lots of empty office space. Lots of tenants simply walking away from leases.
Posted by Lexillini on April 12, 2024, 13:49:44, in reply to "I don’t know that I’d agree with that. When I visited downtown Chicago last summer…" Socialism is the gospel of envy.
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See the Lasalle conversion plan here of class B and C office buildings
Posted by bigbop85 on April 12, 2024, 16:16:00, in reply to "Supposedly lots of empty office space. Lots of tenants simply walking away from leases."
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Wow, $151 million in TIF funding for 1000 apartments. That is exactly the
Posted by fratstud on April 15, 2024, 12:07:42, in reply to "See the Lasalle conversion plan here of class B and C office buildings "
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Dude the loop has changed drastically since you’ve last been in it
Posted by bigbop85 on April 15, 2024, 17:58:40, in reply to "Wow, $151 million in TIF funding for 1000 apartments. That is exactly the"
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your numbers are wrong.
Posted by auto on April 16, 2024, 9:59:37, in reply to "Dude the loop has changed drastically since you’ve last been in it"
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sorry, should have said "downtown" and not loop specifically
Posted by bigbop85 on April 16, 2024, 12:10:11, in reply to "your numbers are wrong."
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well, i can't really address that because i don't know what they mean by downtown...
Posted by auto on April 16, 2024, 13:23:20, in reply to "sorry, should have said "downtown" and not loop specifically"
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I heard a guy got lynched over in that area by where the driving range was on the coldest night of
Posted by fratstud on April 16, 2024, 12:07:37, in reply to "your numbers are wrong."
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The last time I was in the Loop was 2022, before that Spring of 2018. I have
Posted by fratstud on April 16, 2024, 9:47:20, in reply to "Dude the loop has changed drastically since you’ve last been in it"
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I think I was last in the Loop during the spring or summer of 2019.
Posted by Lexillini on April 16, 2024, 10:05:52, in reply to "The last time I was in the Loop was 2022, before that Spring of 2018. I have" Socialism is the gospel of envy.
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Sure…but as the defacto capital of the Midwest…
Posted by haighter on April 12, 2024, 13:56:04, in reply to "Supposedly lots of empty office space. Lots of tenants simply walking away from leases."
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that's just a matter of how you draw city boundaries though.
Posted by auto on April 15, 2024, 11:11:51, in reply to "Sure…but as the defacto capital of the Midwest…"
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i think that's right.
Posted by arthurkirkland on April 12, 2024, 14:39:33, in reply to "Sure…but as the defacto capital of the Midwest…"
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The reach of Chicago's impending crisis may not be as extensive as St. Louis'.
Posted by Lexillini on April 12, 2024, 14:29:52, in reply to "Sure…but as the defacto capital of the Midwest…" Socialism is the gospel of envy.
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For sure...commercial real estate is in the absolute shitter...
Posted by haighter on April 12, 2024, 14:38:36, in reply to "The reach of Chicago's impending crisis may not be as extensive as St. Louis'."
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