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    Re: O or OO grade 12 ga. Archived Message

    Posted by USMC Armorer on June 3, 2008, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Re: O or OO grade 12 ga."

    What a great "moniker" Shot Gun Tom- didn't Ivor Johnson have a single 12 gauge 36" barrel they called the "Long Tom" version of the "Champion" model? Our CO at LeJeune in 64-65 was a big L.C. Smith man- shoot skeet, quail and dove with those doubles- mainly 16 bores- and we often stripped and cleaned them as a "Government Job"-He also had a L.C. Smith single trap, which I got to shoot and pattern test (the base skeet club, under supervision of M/Gy.Sgt. (E-8) Korsack- also had a reloading set up-for 12 ga. and the old Federal Champion paper Trap load was "top gun" then- believe the Win. AA plastic hulls were just coming out- that old Smith was a super handling trap gun-and at 45 measured yards- it put 85% of a 1and 1/8th oz. Federal No. 7 and 1/2 sized shot into a 36" dia circle on paper-we didn't reload 16 or 20 ga. shells- The CO ordered them from a ammo supply house in Front Royal VA. by the case, had them shipped right to the armory- He also gave me permission to keep my "passed down" 20 ga. Ideal grade there, and I found out how hard it is to hit doves a wing-best quail shot I ever got to hunt with was a civilian on-base employee- he had a Baker 20 gauge double-and he often got a limit of birds over his old Pointer and never dirtied the second barrel- when you hunted "buurds, Suh" with Samuel- it was one bird only from a small covey, and go on to find another-that's why, back then, the birds were seldom "shot out". I would guess today where we hunted over 40 years ago-there is a golf course or a condo-or a strip mall.


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