Drew, my limited funding allows me to get the "clunkers" as Russ used to say, and try and fix them up to be field worthy again and look half way decent. I don't re-sell them, why I don't know. Since I have started this and have seen some pre-13's and own one 1895 Quality 2, these are my favorites and I can see why some people like them. They are in a class by themselves and in my opinion there are no close matches from other manufacturers. So if I had a delusional dream gun to own it would be a 20ga or 16 ga 5E with 30" barrels. (I wouldn't turn down 28")