Have shot "Elsies" at the Southern for three years and have had no malfunctions, with the exception of an occasional double ( perhaps half a dozen ). This is with at least three guns being shot. Shot the VA Vintagers in June supplied two guns and had no malfunctions. We may not take home the cup but it's not the guns fault. You got to watch those Parker guys !! Do you think I need to take a Parker to Pintail Point? I've got one they can drool over, but I'll be shooting my " Elsies ". Look forward to seeing you all.