Mark, the standard length for an "elsie" stock should be between 14 1/8"-14 1/4" from the front trigger to the end of the stock wood. In my opinion if your stock is long enough for you, then I would only put a plastic butt plate on it. Unfortunatley I have one that the stock was too short and I used a replica silvers, mine is circa 1939. Brownells, Midway carry replicas and so does Glazans.