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    Posted by machine on February 25, 2011, 2:53 am, in reply to "Re: machine..."

    There is this thing about beliefs, and that is they need not be true to be believed in. In the case of JFK, I believe he was killed by a loan lunatic gunman. I only asked, because much of that post seemed like quite a conspiracy theorists argument.

    I will never be able to prove that LHO killed JFK acting alone, nor will anyone ever be able to prove a conspiracy theory.

    I was hoping the time away from my computer would help me to decide which way to proceed with my arguments, unfortunately it did not. I have personal life experience that would discredit much of your rant, however I don't like the idea of said experience coming back to bite me in the ass in some future argument.


    Since it feels best at this point in the debate to ask questions, allowing you to clarify your tangential positions, that is what i will do now, as a good deal of your supposition seem quite like that of a Russell's Teapot

    the thesis of my college education was an exploration of dissent - how those who stand up to the war machine get murdered by our government.

    Is that ever an accusation. I will allow you to clarify, as you must. If that is true, you should wright something more than a thesis about it. Post proof here, let us know, put you face out there to make sure you don't meet an untimely death. If you can prove that, you should get a Pulitzer.

    I would like to take the opportunity to rephrase your statement, call me out on if you would like.

    "Those in power (Obama currently) are placing orders on the heads of American Citizens, who disagree with some aspects of the way our nation is ran, especially when it comes to military production. "

    I don't care much for Obama, but I still don't think he would do that. Nor do I believe Bush let 9-11 happen to start a war (he most likely believed Saddam really had WMDs) . Nor do I believe Clinton actually stared bombing Kosovo to help cover his BJ scandals.

    Are the elected officials reasonable? or just the proverbially evil warmongering CEO? Do you really believe that our government is killing Americans, to grow the "Military Industrial Complex"? Did your "thesis" receive a passing grade? If so, would you send it to me in a .PDF so i can read it? What University would allow for a person to graduate with a "Masters" (was it a thesis or a research paper) in "education" (what i have been told you do and assuming you hold a degree to match) on a paper completely out of the scope of the field. (I hold a BS in Manufacturing Engineering, an AT in Precision Machining, and an AS in Airframe Maintenance, I never had to write a thesis, the longest paper i have had to write was only about 45 pages, It had to be directly related to manufacturing)

    Moving onwards; last i checked - china was one of our greatest allies.

    Officially yes, do you really believe that though? I don't, I believe we are in the early stages of another cold war.

    if someone was intending to invade us

    while for the time being I am not to concerned about a "red dawn" tomorrow, I am very concerned about ICBMs, and EMPs directed to our satellites and or ground based computer networks. (If i were China, once it was time to start the war, I would start by nuking the east coast, during a state of the union address, and simultaneously take out the computer networks around the rest of the country)

    is our military too big, wielding too much power? yes.

    PERHAPS, out side of the encroachment in my wallet, I still cannot find evidence to support your argument


    I will keep going, but i need sleep now, It's been a long day.


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