I'd like to discuss control on takedowns with you. In one of our matches at the Eastside Catholic Tournament (where you were reffing and I was coaching), from the neutral position, the wrestlers wound up in a position where the opposing wrestler was in a sitting position with his butt on the mat and our wrestler was behind him with his arms underneath. I thought it was a takedown but you clearly indicated that they were still neutral. I didn't continue arguing the point because we both had a clear view of the situation, and you were waiting for a certain something from our wrestler to finalize control (and you have a much better scope of the rules than me).
It was interesting to me because it means I may need to re-evaluate what's classified as a takedown in my head when I referee. From my interpretation, they were still moving a lot, but they were on the mat with our boy behind and arms underneath well beyond reaction time, but you obviously had a different perspective. Was there something additional our wrestler needed to do, or were you waiting for the dust to settle, or perhaps something else?
I know that control is felt, not specifically defined, but I'd be very interested to hear your take on the situation.
I'll try to post the video later tonight for reference.
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