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Vauxhall Vivaro 1.9 F9 2005 - No revs - Fixed #

Posted by Shane gray on July 23, 2014, 8:16 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2005
Engine Size and Code *: 1.9 f9
( Optional ) Scanner Used: Vaux com

Hi got this one in and when it's warm it won't take any revs when started for about 20 sec. Scoped MAF and throttle pedal, both good. Live data is showing EGR working and fuel pressure is about 300 bar at idle. There are no fault codes.
Any help please?
Shane

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 23, 2014, 9:21 pm, in reply to "Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Mark Carter

What software version is it running?

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by aidan birley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2879' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 23, 2014, 9:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Aidan Birley

hi
in addition to Marks suggestion I would also do an injector and rail relief valve leak check on this.

Aidan

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Shane gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 24, 2014, 7:32 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Shane Gray

Morning,
I will do an injector leak test this morning, what's best way of doing relief valve test?
Mark I will report on software version later on.
Shane

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by aidan birley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2879' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 24, 2014, 7:41 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Aidan Birley

Shane

>>>> what's best way of doing relief valve test? <<

I just connect bottle 5 to it at the same time as injectors !

Cheers aidan

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by SHANE GRAY <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 24, 2014, 8:49 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Shane Gray

Mark,
Software version is 1200.
My fuel pressure is 30,500 to 31,000 kpa on idle, Stop engine and it drops in about 10 sec and flickers back and fore to 538kpa to 359kpa.
Shane

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by SHANE GRAY <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 24, 2014, 12:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Shane Gray

Leakoff test results. cyl 1 7ml, cyl 2 6.5ml, cyl 3 6ml, cyl 4 9 ml.
Looks like injector 4 faulty ?
Shane

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 24, 2014, 9:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Lee Mackintosh

In my limited experience or knowledge I wouldn't be condemning injector 4 just based on that figure as its only just a fraction higher.

Maybe best to do a longer test until at least 1 bottle is completely full then do a comparison.

I may have this wrong but I think Vauxhall Tis states 3 times the lowest difference to the maximum difference.

so 6ml being the lowest and 9ml being the highest. 3ml is the difference between both, so 3×3 =9. So to me this means its only 1 times the difference.

Someone else will be along later to either correct my misunderstanding or point us in a direction.

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 25, 2014, 7:46 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Mark Carter

Get it on the latest software, and check battery voltage.

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Shane gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 25, 2014, 7:53 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Shane Gray

Hi all,
Instructions with my leak off tester says 30% differences! but it also says the lowest is the faulty one! surly it's highest!
Any I sent injectors off yesterday for testing.
Keep you posted.
Shane

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 25, 2014, 10:08 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Mark Carter

>>> but it also says the lowest is the faulty one! <<<

It can be, it depends on your issue with the vehicle.

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by shane gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 26, 2014, 2:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Shane Gray

Thanks mark,
I can understand that you can ha e excessive leakoff and also leaking needle.
shane

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 26, 2014, 3:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Mark Carter

One example of a return rate that is too low could be an injector with a control chamber not venting correctly.

Mark.

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs

Posted by Shane gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 31, 2014, 7:49 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Shane Gray

Hi,
Injector 3 has a leaking nozzle, injector 1 was damaged coming out (seized), other two just in tolerances. Having recon injectors should get them back today/ tommorrow.
Finger crossed will fix.
Shane

Fixed #

Posted by Shane Gray on August 2, 2014, 11:17 am, in reply to "Re: Vauxhall vivaro no revs"
Edited by board administrator August 5, 2014, 3:48 pm

Fitted injectors yesterday and all seems good. Customer used for a few days and has informed me it's fixed!
Shane

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