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Audi A6 3.0 ASB 2007 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault, code P3135 012597 #

Posted by John Hall on January 13, 2014, 8:50 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2007
Engine Size and Code *: 3.0 / ASB
( Optional ) Scanner Used: VCDS (Vag Com)
( Optional) Fault Codes: P3135 / 012597

I have the above with a fault code for lower limit not reached on manifold runner motor.

The motor cycles when ignition turned on (up and down) but wont move when requested under actuation's.

Scoped the power and signal connections at the motor to find all OK and PWM signal changes when ignition cycles so indicates a change in motor direction.

When basic settings carried out the motor does not move (but OK on other bank when attempt same).

Has anyone had a similar issue - suspect fault in control unit ?

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 13, 2014, 10:49 pm, in reply to "Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Mark Carter

Haven't these been modified along with a software update?

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Ian <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1710' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2014, 8:12 am, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Ian Whitmore

Hi
Complete replacement manifold with motor required.Common problem
All in one unit, you cant replace just the manifold as the motors need programming and are one programme only. So you wont be able to reuse a second time.
Best to do both manifolds as the other will go soon, not a cheap job !!

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Jon Morgan <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3190' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2014, 1:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Jon Morgan

As Ians post above.
Audi quote 4 hours for 2 runners & 3.5 hours for 1.

Unless one of them looks bright & shiny advise the customer to replace both to cover ones ass.

Not cheap, but very common.

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Piotr Sokolowski <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1848' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2014, 9:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"

expensive job. New one over 400 pounds each . There are some refurbished units available on ebay. Also 3 th option de-remap it.

Link: http://www.pandpauto.co.uk

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 14, 2014, 9:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Mark Carter

Remove swirl flaps on a vehicle with a DPF and you are sitting on a time bomb.

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by John Hall <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3023' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 15, 2014, 8:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"

Thanks for your replies, new flaps / motor on order !

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by sean savage <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5559' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 17, 2014, 8:56 am, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Sean Savage

The motors or manifolds dont need programming,they are plug and play. there is a company on ebay who i have now used several times with much sucsess who supply 2 manifolds for about £350 inc new motors and give you £40 each for returned old unit.

sean

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by John Hall <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3023' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 19, 2014, 9:11 am, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"

That sounds good Sean - can you message me the details for future use please ?

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Jon Morgan <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3190' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 20, 2014, 9:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Jon Morgan

The manifold runner motors are available separately from the manifolds via TPS.
They need base setting with a tool that even the dealers don't have - I have heard of workshops that fitted just the motors running into difficulty as they can't base set them.
If the full plastic manifold runner with motor already attached is purchased it has been set at the factory & no setup is required.
V6 TDI turbo actuators suffer the same basic setting issue - if the full turbo is bought it is base set. If just the actuator is bought it needs setting with a specific tool that no dealer appears to have.

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Matt Booth <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3028' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 20, 2014, 11:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Matthew Booth

Every one I've done up to now has been resolved using the linkage repair kit. Have I been lucky or are you not aware of this kit?

For what it costs (About Â£9) I would try it first. When I've tried the basic settings with the worn linkage it never runs. Can't remember if I've tried activation.

Matt

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by sean savage <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5559' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 21, 2014, 8:11 am, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Sean Savage

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMPLETE-INLET-MANIFOLDS-KIT-2-7-3-0-TDI-AUDI-VW-A4-A5-A6-A7-A8-Q5-Q7-TOUAREG-/320946324492?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AQ7&hash=item4ab9e4440c

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Jon Morgan <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3190' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 21, 2014, 1:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"

Thanks Sean.
Matt, thanks for that - the last time I looked on the parts cat the repair kit wasn't shown - I just checked & it is now there on the manifold illustration.
Part number for the repair kit is 059 198 212 £8.15 + VAT

However.....the manifold runners we have changed have been shot inside - excessive play in the bushes (or none existent bushes), so possibly worth a disclaimer if you're going to fit the repair kit?

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Ian Baxter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1560' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 21, 2014, 6:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"

Here's one I did earlier

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Re: audi a6 3ltr tdi manifold runner replacment
Posted by Ian Baxter on February 28, 2013, 11:00 pm, in reply to "audi a6 3ltr tdi manifold runner replacment"
Ian Baxter | Edited by UKAT1560 on February 28, 2013, 11:04 pm

Hello Kieth,
I guess you are talking about the plastic inlet manifold flap and motor units. This job is not too bad The only really fiddley bit from memory was the little metal coolant bi-pass pipes get in the way and prevent removal of manifold but if you loosen, but don't remove the banjo bolts ( unless you have 10 way reversable fingers ) you can manipulate to metal pipes enough to remove manifolds. On refitting and before bolting down make sure the flaps are free to move and not pinched. These don't need any adaptations just clear codes.
Ian

Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault

Posted by Matt Booth <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3028' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 21, 2014, 10:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Audi A6 - Inlet manifold runner motor fault"
Matthew Booth

You're right Jon. I'm sure you find as much as I do however that the customer is generally just interested in getting rid of that annoying amber light and any warning would fall on deaf ears.

Still for under a tenner and less than 15 mins work its worth a shot. The clip on the O/S bank is a right pain mind you.

Matt

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